Vernon Bulter vs Hunter Henry

[The_Rainmaker]

1st round pick are immediate impact players that helps you win games. Although Vernon Butler has a chance to become a solid DT,  I believe Hunter Henry could have made a bigger impact with the weak OL in pass & run blocking while providing another target and 2 TE for Shula to run his offensive scheme more effectively.

 

[carolinajay]

What if you could get a Hog Mollie that plays Tight End?

 

Problem solved

[carolinajay]

3 hours ago, Hammerin'Cameron1 said:

I wanted Hunter Henry damn

Combine Hunter Henry & Vernon Butler

 

[SOJA]

I really think Getleman gambled on getting H. Henry or D. Henry in the 2nd by trading up a la Funsize. Teams asking prices were too high aka a 1st this year. 

Thank god he didn't pull that trigger. 

 

[JawnyBlaze]

Yea I was really hoping for H. Henry in the first too. Oh well, we don't have any holes leading into this next draft so we can afford another luxury pick in the first right?  Maybe we'll get a playmaker at TE or RB this year. 

 

Oh wait...

[t96]

A first round pick doesn't have to be an immediate contributor. Aaron Rodgers wasn't a contributor until his 4th year. Clowney didn't do much his first two years but is now their defensive centerpiece with Watt hurt. Butler could be a 16 game starter and impact player as soon as next year, or the year after if KK is tagged. Seeming like KK won't get a big deal here and Butler is his replacement. Way too early to start comparing the Butler and Henry draft picks and to say that we should've taken Henry over Butler. It may turn out that way, but way too early to judge.

[CRA]

39 minutes ago, The_Rainmaker said:

1st round pick are immediate impact players that helps you win games. Although Vernon Butler has a chance to become a solid DT,  I believe Hunter Henry could have made a bigger impact with the weak OL in pass & run blocking while providing another target and 2 TE for Shula to run his offensive scheme more effectively.

 

Even if Butler pans out as a player ....something would have Star/KK for us to have actually gain the value of hitting on a first round talent 

[carolinajay]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

Even if Butler pans out as a player ....something would have Star/KK for us to have actually gain the value of hitting on a first round talent

?????

Not true as much as the d-line rotates, having all 3 could work out well.

Keep in mind if KK is signed for 5-years, he will be in his 30's at the end of the deal. The panthers could transition into Vernon after that seeing as Vernon is locked in for 4 years and the panthers have the option for a 5th year.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, carolinajay said:

?????

Not true as much as the d-line rotates, having all 3 could work out well.

Keep in mind if KK is signed for 5-years, he will be in his 30's at the end of the deal. The panthers could transition into Vernon after that seeing as Vernon is locked in for 4 years and the panthers have the option for a 5th year.

gets back into the whole double trouble debacle.  You end up with talented investments spending too much time watching football play.  Rest they don't need.  You don't waste first round picks on depth.  

Same goes for Shaq.  would have rather have drafted at a position where would could of maximized hitting on talent 

[iamhubby1]

 

If you are going to complain that a Defensive Coach, and a Defensive GM take a DT in the first. You may be complaining for a long time.

 

Butler gets plenty of snaps. But hey, let's play a guy like Fua instead. Butler makes our Dline better. Not sure you can complain about that. But I am sure some will, and have, tried.

 

Oher, Norwell, Kalil, Turner, and Williams. With Remmers, Scott, and Gradkowski as depth is a damm fine group. Just because this season didn't work out, doesn't mean the potential wasn't there.

 

You folks complain just to complain.

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

If you are going to complain that a Defensive Coach, and a Defensive GM take a DT in the first. You may be complaining for a long time.

 

Butler gets plenty of snaps. But hey, let's play a guy like Fua instead. Butler makes our Dline better. Not sure you can complain about that. But I am sure some will, and have, tried.

 

Oher, Norwell, Kalil, Turner, and Williams. With Remmers, Scott, and Gradkowski as depth is a damm fine group. Just because this season didn't work out, doesn't mean the potential wasn't there.

 

You folks complain just to complain.

Didn't realize DT was the only position on a defense.  Got no issue drafting D. 

Always had an issue with the Double Trouble model of building teams.  Always been against overstacking investments at one spot

[FootballLivesMatter]

Landon Collins > Shaq

Ronald Darby > Funchess

Henry > Butler

[Soul Rebel]

I too would've personally preferred either Henry over Butler on draft day, but don't think it's an issue moving forward. Butler will be a solid, if not more, DT for awhile.  As mentioned, being able to rotate everyone in and out for now, as well as the insurance he provides if KK isn't in our longterm plans is important. 

I personally like the Butler pick because I think, once he's up to speed, will allow sub packages of where all 3 players are on the field with KK likely kicking out to DE. Star & Butler will occupy a lot of space inside and KK will be a mismatch opening up gaps and pushing linemen back with brute force.

HH would look nice opposite Olsen, but I'm not ready to say that Butler wasn't a wise pick for the future of the franchise.

[iamhubby1]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Didn't realize DT was the only position on a defense.  Got no issue drafting D. 

Always had an issue with the Double Trouble model of building teams

 

Yeah, let's use ancient history to dog a very solid, and rising player. Drafting Stewy, although a great player for us, was stupid. Also, that was Hurndog, not Gman. We haven't seen Gman enough to have a solid grasp on what his philosophy actually is.

 

Butler helps keep our Dline fresh. He is a much better pick for what this team wants to do. He gives us flexibility, and we lose very little, if anything, when he is in the line-up.

 

With how things have gone the last few years, bringing in a top flight LT was a pipe dream. Now, if things go as they appear to be heading. We could have a decent pick, and plenty of money. IF they don't address the LT this off-season, then I will start to harp on the FO.

 

We didn't have a high enough pick, nor any money. Yet folks think we should have still found a way to upgrade the LT spot.