My Top 15 Prospects

[FootballLivesMatter]

Considering we get a top 10 pick and based on our needs. 

(1) Myles Garrett, DE

(2) Jonathan Allen, DE

(3) Leonard Fournette, RB

(4) Jabrill Peppers, S

(5) Quincy Wilson, CB

(6) Jamal Adams, S

(7) Teez Tabor, CB

(8) Marlon Humphrey, CB

(9) Mike Williams, WR

(10) Derek Barnett, DE

(11) Cam Robinson, OT

(12) Carl Lawson, DE

(13) Dalvin Cook, RB

(14) Sidney Jones, CB

(15) Mike McGlinchey, OT

(15) John Ross, WR

 

 

[Untouchable]

Take a look into Malik McDowell for Michigan State as well.  Listed as a DT but can play all over the dline

[ncfan]

Atleast we sucked in a good draft year.  This draft seems more talented and deeper  this year than the last few imo.

The bad though.  I wish Gettleman wouldve Gettleman last draft.  Instead of his typical bpa he reached for needs (still think we shouldve gone Nassib 2, trade up in the 3rd for Bradberry).  Now that we invested 90% of last years draft on Corners.   This draft is the Deepest at CB class I have seen in a long while.  King out of Iowa was projected the #2 CB last year behind Ramsey were he to declare.  Now he may end up being the 5th or 6th CB and falling to the 2nd.  We couldve filled several other holes just by gtabbing Bradberry at CB and not reach for the other guys.  now we could have less holes and still pickup a guy on the level of Eli Apple or Hargraves in the 2nd.

 

As far as the big board it looks pretty good.   Id nove McGlinchey up a little, bump Sidney Jones and Quincey Miller right out of the top 15. Tim Williams up there.  Tim Williams is one of my sleepers.  One of the better "true" natural 3-4 OLB I have seen come out the last few seasons.  Could be huge for a team like the jets.

[FootballLivesMatter]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

Atleast we sucked in a good draft year.  This draft seems more talented and deeper  this year than the last few imo.

The bad though.  I wish Gettleman wouldve Gettleman last draft.  Instead of his typical bpa he reached for needs (still think we shouldve gone Nassib 2, trade up in the 3rd for Bradberry).  Now that we invested 90% of last years draft on Corners.   This draft is the Deepest at CB class I have seen in a long while.  King out of Iowa was projected the #2 CB last year behind Ramsey were he to declare.  Now he may end up being the 5th or 6th CB and falling to the 2nd.  We couldve filled several other holes just by gtabbing Bradberry at CB and not reach for the other guys.  now we could have less holes and still pickup a guy on the level of Eli Apple or Hargraves in the 2nd.

 

As far as the big board it looks pretty good.   Id nove McGlinchey up a little, bump Sidney Jones and Quincey Miller right out of the top 15. Tim Williams up there.  Tim Williams is one of my sleepers.  One of the better "true" natural 3-4 OLB I have seen come out the last few seasons.  Could be huge for a team like the jets.

Yup. Desmond King is a stud. Was ranked very high last year until he decided not to return. Now, he's not even the best in this class. 

 

Not saying Butler will be a bad pick, but we should've use it on a "need" pick. Someone like Ogbah, Dodd, Noah Spence Derrick Henry. 

 

Should've drafted Landon Collins over Shaq in 2015 too. I like Shaq but not the damn way they are using him. He barely sees the field. 

[FootballLivesMatter]

Updated 01/11/17:

1. Myles Garrett

2. Jonathan Allen

3. Leonard Fournette

4. Jamal Adams

5. Derek Barnett

6. Dalvin Cook

7. Reuben Foster

8. Malik Hooker

9. Marlon Humphrey

10. Solomon Thomas

11. Mike Williams 

12. Teez Tabor

13. Sidney Jones

14. Jabrill Peppers

15. Cam Robinson 

[Hoenheim]

Garrett wont make it past the top 5 unless he has a Laremy Tunsil type incident. And then the Panthers wouldn't select him anyway lol.

Pretty good lists though. At this point if Adams , Allen, and Hooker are all gone at 8, I think the Panthers will end up getting one of the two running backs. Or they might reach for the best OT (Robinson or Ramcyk whichever one they like more I suppose), and I wouldn't be mad honestly, at least they'd be trying to fix our achilles heel thats been being ignored here for years.

Hopefully they don't draft Williams. We have enough possession receivers. If the Panthers do end up picking up any WR talent this draft, it needs to be a speed demon (i.e. John Ross or DeDe Westbrook) or someone with great YAC skills otherwise.

[Guest Rueben Foster]

We will draft Foster

[Hoenheim]

There's going to be such a huge talent pool at pick 8, its going to be hard for us to have a bad pick unless we get really unlucky and get a bust. But just going off college performance alone, we're going to be getting a great player most likely and I'm really looking forward to the draft.

Guest Rueben Foster, I wouldn't be mad if that happened. Even though we are absolutely fuging stacked at the LB position, Foster is seemingly a world beating linebacker and the absolute best in his draft class by a very long shot. Honestly he'd get more playing time if he played as an OLB but if he stays as an ILB then he'll only be spelling Luke.. Our best bet would be to train him up to be a lethal OLB to play with Keuchly and Davis, and when Davis retires we'd have a starting 3 of Foster, Keuchly, and S.Thompson which will be fun as fuging hell. As great as our current LBs are , none of them are real pass rushing specialists, they cover the field and track the ball carrier well but generally aren't often counted upon to hit home to the QB. If Foster could be used as that type of player whose main responsibility is to get the QB im game.

I like the OPs second list . Although I personally would take out Mike Williams and put John Ross there who suits our WR needs much better than Williams who is probably just a slightly better version of Kelvin or Funchess.

[Guest Carolina-Reuben Foster]

3 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

There's going to be such a huge talent pool at pick 8, its going to be hard for us to have a bad pick unless we get really unlucky and get a bust. But just going off college performance alone, we're going to be getting a great player most likely and I'm really looking forward to the draft.

Guest Rueben Foster, I wouldn't be mad if that happened. Even though we are absolutely fuging stacked at the LB position, Foster is seemingly a world beating linebacker and the absolute best in his draft class by a very long shot. Honestly he'd get more playing time if he played as an OLB but if he stays as an ILB then he'll only be spelling Luke.. Our best bet would be to train him up to be a lethal OLB to play with Keuchly and Davis, and when Davis retires we'd have a starting 3 of Foster, Keuchly, and S.Thompson which will be fun as fuging hell. As great as our current LBs are , none of them are real pass rushing specialists, they cover the field and track the ball carrier well but generally aren't often counted upon to hit home to the QB. If Foster could be used as that type of player whose main responsibility is to get the QB im game.

I like the OPs second list . Although I personally would take out Mike Williams and put John Ross there who suits our WR needs much better than Williams who is probably just a slightly better version of Kelvin or Funchess.

Fan's favorites at this point are pretty much down to two: Adams and Fournette. People seem to think that Fournette will just be there at 8. He could easily go to Jax at 4 and then Adams at 7 to SD. We'd be screwed. 

Imo, I'd take Foster over any DEs in this draft. Fans are going to hate it but Foster is a stud beast. I think that he can make a Switch go OLB similar to Vontaze Burfict. TD is getting older and slower. Shaq is an unknown at this point. And, Luke has a concussion history. 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/reuben-foster?id=2557837

Sources Tell Us

"He's not a MIKE linebacker. I think he's a pure run-and-hit WILL linebacker with good cover talent. I'm worried about what his medicals will show because he's had some issues with stingers during his career. I have a higher grade on him than I had on Reggie Ragland. Better pro potential to me." -- NFC director of scouting

NFL Comparison

Bobby Wagner

Bottom Line

Foster is a vicious hitter with elite playmaking range and an ability to toggle between 225 and 240 pounds. Athleticism gives him cover ability that former teammate Reggie Ragland never possessed. Has Pro Bowl potential as a 3-4 inside linebacker or a 4-3 weak-side linebacker, but concerns over his medical history could be a consideration, according to some teams.

 

Also, 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-football-reuben-foster-is-the-best-most-complete-lb-alabama-crimson-tide/

 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

I would be very content with a BPA approach (sans CB, QB) this year as the pickings are ripe at #8, but....  Depending how draft stocks move there may be some QB coveting later in the 1st (Texans, Cards, Bills, Browns?) which might make trade down possibilities more plausible and easier to imagine.  

Looking forward to the drama between now and then.

[Guest Draft Expert]

1. Myles Garrett

2. Jamal Adams

3. Leonard Fournette

4. Jonathan Allen

5. Malik Hooker

6. Reuben Foster

7. Derek Barnett

8. Solomon Thomas

9. Dalvin Cook

10. Marshon Lattimore

11. Jabrill Peppers

12. Marlon Humphrey 

13. Sidney Jones

14. OJ Howard

15. Cam Robinson

[Shocker]

I have seen a ton of Mike Williams and he's a good possession WR.  I think he is a little to hyped up. Corey Davis is my best WR by a large margin.  He is amazing.

[Hoenheim]

1 hour ago, Shocker said:

I have seen a ton of Mike Williams and he's a good possession WR.  I think he is a little to hyped up. Corey Davis is my best WR by a large margin.  He is amazing.

What exactly is it that makes Corey Davis amazing? Enlighten me.. if he's not a speed burner how is he useful to our offense? Does he have good YAC? Because none of our receivers do unless you count Ginn just outrunning people.