Interesting stat-Fox vs Rivera

[Carl Spackler]

Fox and Rivera are the Hurney and Gettleman of coaches

The means to the end are different but the end is always the same

[NanuqoftheNorth]

2 minutes ago, Snake said:

Without a OC change we are going to be average for awhile. Ron is Ron but Shula is just terrible. 

Remember when we went through this very same scenario with Fox?

Fans used to complain about how predictable the Panther's offense was under Fox's first OC.  Finally Fox fired that guy and hired a new OC from Cleveland's staff who turned out to be even worse. 

That is what I see happening when Ron is finally forced to make a change.

[Carl Spackler]

Blaming Shula for playcalling issues is not all that dissimilar to blaming the holder for Gano's missed FGs

The source is higher up the food chain

[Snake]

1 hour ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

 

[Snake]

1 hour ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

 

 

[ok2h8pep]

1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

"You haven't spent as much of your life spouting opinions on a message board as me, so your opinion is invalid. Enjoy this facepalm gif while I masturbate vigorously to pictures of Gettleman eating pasta" - Snake, probably

I had to pie because this is funny and true.   Judging the gravitas of an opinion based on the number of posts .... that's classic snowflake right there.

[beastson]

How can any Panthers fans defend this?

It looks like JR hasn't learned anything from the past, I guess history repeats itself. The Ron Rivera you see now will NOT lead this team to another SB and win one. He can't even get better coordinators

[Snake]

1 hour ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

 

 

1 hour ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Fox is a mediocre head coach.

Not the worst, but not one of the best.

Rivera is looking more and more like he is a carbon copy of Fox.

Not going to argue but I will say Fox and Hurney didn't do Rivera any favors with the Cap and talent. 

58 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Remember when we went through this very same scenario with Fox?

Fans used to complain about how predictable the Panther's offense was under Fox's first OC.  Finally Fox fired that guy and hired a new OC from Cleveland's staff who turned out to be even worse. 

That is what I see happening when Ron is finally forced to make a change.

Maybe,  but it's clear Shula is not working and Rivera is not leaving so might as well try. 

[emhoward]

1 hour ago, Knaakedup said:

Unfortunately, I agree with you. His drafting has been really bad.


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You can say Gettleman's not a good drafter, fine, whatever. 

You can't however say that his drafts have been "really bad" and that he "sucks dick" at it. 

Go home. 

[emhoward]

As Far as Rivera goes, his record says he's above average, but it could be a situation where he's just average but the talent lifts us to an above average level...it's hard to say...

[scpanther22]

it is what it is

[Cyberjag]

Fox had Peppers and Smitty while Rivera has Cam and Luke.  I kind of think Fox was better at game plans and strategy, while Rivera is better at developing talent.  If that's the case, then at this point Fox would be better, but it's questionable whether he would have gotten the current roster to this point.

 

[uncfan888]

2 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

Ron Rivera is the Mike Shula of head coaches

Mike Shula is the Dave Gettleman of offensive coordinators

Graham Gano is the Mike Shula of kickers

Kelvin Benjamin is the Ron Rivera of wide receivers

Mike Remmers is a worthless piece of poo

You're becoming the Mike Remmers of the huddle

[Randolph Panther]

6 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

You're becoming the Mike Remmers of the huddle