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Watching these playoff team's offenses

tiger7_88

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1 hour ago, Peppers90 NC said:

People in here are in such denial about the terrible play from the QB position this season and how much that affected the offense.

 

11 minutes ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

Yea as much as we blame Shula, sometimes I think he's actually doing Cam a favor. Hiding his flaws.

There's such a weird cognitive dissonance with fans of entrenched starting QBs. You saw it all the time in Matt Ryan's early years -- "fug Mike Mularkey for not letting Matt air it out 70 yards on each play," etc...

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2 minutes ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

I'd trade Cam and three future 1st for Dak. 

:)

If I could get that OL, Zeke Elliott, and Dez Bryant too, I'd also make that trade.

You'd be mighty disappointed in your ROI on that trade and your heart would get ripped out by what Cam would do in that offense. How quickly so many people forget that the guy won an MVP with Ginn as his top WR.

But, but, but... he played awful down the stretch this season with no OL and a bum shoulder! Trade him! LOL!

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If I could get that OL, Zeke Elliott, and Dez Bryant too, I'd also make that trade.

You'd be mighty disappointed in your ROI on that trade and your heart would get ripped out by what Cam would do in that offense. How quickly so many people forget that the guy won an MVP with Ginn as his top WR.

But, but, but... he played awful down the stretch this season with no OL and a bum shoulder! Trade him! LOL!

His mechanics are so far ahead of Cam. Not even close. He's a much better passer and his knowledge of the game is jaw dropping. 

Cam is a great athlete. Dak is a better QB. 

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Just now, FootballLivesMatter said:

His mechanics are so far ahead of Cam. Not even close. He's a much better passer and his knowledge of the game is jaw dropping. 

Cam is a great athlete. Dak is a better QB. 

Dak had a very promising rookie season in an absolutely loaded offense. Calm down.

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1 hour ago, tiger7_88 said:

Sanu and Gabriel have never been anything special.  But in the scheme that Shanahan is running with Atlanta?  Gosh, its almost as if they're different players!  Could be position coaching too.

Great point.

But in the Mike Shula years:

2016 - 15th in points scored, 19th in total offense.

2015 - 1st in points scored, 11th in total offense

2014 - 19th and 16th

2013 - 18th and 26th

See if you can pick out the year above which was the anomaly.  And even with that anomaly of a year, Shula's average offense is 13th in points scored and 18th in total offense.

Which is exactly what Shula has ALWAYS been... mediocre.

 

That all sounds so nice for your argument. But it is a bit misleading. Because of the type of Offense we run, we are never going to be a top Total Offense team. We run the ball more than we pass, we move methodically down the field, and we use the clock on almost every play.

 

We are almost always near the top in rushing yards. That is going to impact our passing yards. And that is where you are going to get more yards. Passing teams are going to get more yards than we do. So yeah, we are not going to be near the top in Total Offense.

 

Cam rarely throws for 300yds. That is going to make it very difficult for us to kill it in Total Offense.

 

So yeah, your point is a tad misleading.

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23 minutes ago, Yaboychris28 said:

But but but he can run for first downs and is a physical specimen.. If Cam has another poor season in a row, I wouldn't mind looking for a replacement

 

11 minutes ago, FootballLivesMatter said:

I'd trade Cam and three future 1st for Dak. 

:)

 

Man, you have just gotta love this interwebz thingy. You can hear the craziest stuff.

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