Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Gman: ...we're going to attack the issue [of LT]


top dawg

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, Lasus83 said:


The #1 reason I am high on him is because he stays healthy... there should be no higher priority at LT for us... maybe no higher priority on the team.

He is a young, nfl proven LT... proven to be average to above average... but would anyone argue he is a downgrade from Oher. If it takes 13M/yr to get him... worth it.

Sent from my SM-G930P using CarolinaHuddle mobile app
 

absolutely...it makes perfect sense... which is why I'm not confident 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

52 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Reiff is a good RT but an average at best LT. 

According to Pro Football Focus, Reiff ranked 48th out of 81 qualifying tackles in the league, which sound about right for Reiff. His play was definitely around average.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.prideofdetroit.com/platform/amp/2017/1/10/14215412/detroit-lions-2016-roster-review-riley-reiff-right-tackle-or-left-tackle-contract-free-agent?client=safari

 

Says he started off well but faded 2nd half. If Rieff does get somewhere between 6-8 as predicted on Roto I just don't see how he's worth it.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, KillerKat said:

A real LT lol. You do realize sometimes teams want 2 good tackles right? Decker was just best suited on the left side and since you can only have 1 LT playing on the field, Riley was moved to RT.

Who's this 2nd good tackle? I'm dying to know

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest Lasus83
According to Pro Football Focus, Reiff ranked 48th out of 81 qualifying tackles in the league, which sound about right for Reiff. His play was definitely around average.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.prideofdetroit.com/platform/amp/2017/1/10/14215412/detroit-lions-2016-roster-review-riley-reiff-right-tackle-or-left-tackle-contract-free-agent?client=safari

 

Says he started off well but faded 2nd half. If Rieff does get somewhere between 6-8 as predicted on Roto I just don't see how he's worth it.

 


2016 they moved him to RT after the line (and Reiff) struggled in 15. Prior to that, he was an above average LT... never a superstar, but servicable.

I would mich rather have a servicable LT who is there 16 games, than a stud who is there 8-12 games.

And either is better than a prospect who has not proven anything in the League... and could come with their own injury concerns.

13M... thats the number.

Sent from my SM-G930P using CarolinaHuddle mobile app

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Reiff was never an above average LT. That's why a rookie came in and immediately took over at LT. Not just in the season, but literally from day one. They started their offseason preparation with him taking every snap at 1st team LT.

This right here basically sums up Rieff's inability to play LT

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest Lasus83
Reiff was never an above average LT. That's why a rookie came in and immediately took over at LT. Not just in the season, but literally from day one. They started their offseason preparation with him taking every snap at 1st team LT.


Prior to 2015 (summing up performance of 2014 and prior)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/3/

0ee9f83d62337d8fe41001e1700bafc3.jpg

Sent from my SM-G930P using CarolinaHuddle mobile app

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • The bottom line is we saw long stretches this season where T-Mac wasn't even targeted.  He had games where he went an entire half without seeing a pass thrown his way, and it lead to a bunch of games with 5 or less targets.  If he's healthy and we're not up a stupid amount and only running the ball, I can't see him having more than a game or two next year with 5 or less targets. We were also only 22nd this year in pass attempts, and that was with a rookie #1 and no legitimate 2nd option for half the season.  And even then, we were only 46 pass attempts above 31st place. If we go into next season with T-Mac improved in his 2nd season and a healthy Coker for 17 games, there is absolutely no reason for us to not throw it more.  That right away increases both of their target totals without sacrificing any targets from each other or other players, add in them taking targets from the TEs and RBs on top of that, and your argument just doesn't hold water anymore. You can't look at targets/yards in a vacuum and think next year Coker just takes some from T-Mac.  You have to look at the team as a whole and our situations this year and then project what will happen next year. If he's healthy for 17 games, I'd bet my life savings that T-Mac sees increases across the board, targets/catches/yards/TDs.   Just as Coker will also see career highs in all categories, it's not one vs the other, it's shifting offensive strategy given our personnel, which next year will be much better for our passing game (QB issues aside).
    • C'mon now.... First, you can't switch up your argument once someone points out a major flaw in your point. You're saying we shouldn't expect a big increase in targets/yards for T-Mac, but then shift to talking about averages with Chase when I point out the significant leap he took there once you factor in his missing games.  He saw an increase in targets in 5 less games, averages aside, he saw a significant increase in targets in his 2nd season, what he then did with those targets is actually irrelevant in this discussion. Puka seeing no increase is pointless, as he saw such an absurd amount of targets for a rookie, it's near impossible to see an increase. But the real issue in this post is that you think I'm proving your point by showing how Waddle had to share targets with Hill. Tyreek Hill was a 1st team All Pro who was 2nd in the NFL in yards that season. If you think Jaylen Waddle sharing targets with a 1st team All Pro and a future HOFer is even remotely in the same category as T-Mac needing to share targets with Coker... then you are certifiably insane, lol. If anything, you could make the argument that Coker is to Waddle as T-Mac is to Hill in that discussion (which would then lead to a serious increase in targets/yards for T-Mac).  But even that is insane, as neither T-Mac or Coker will be as good as Hill and Waddle respectively that season.  I love both of their potential, but c'mon now, T-Mac isn't getting 119 catches for 1,700 yards and Coker isn't getting 117 for 1,350 next season.
×
×
  • Create New...