How a 'Bad Move' sticks with a Franchise

[bLACKpANTHER]

Drafting DJ Augustine over Brook Lopez (2008 Draft):
I think we all knew this was a bad move right when it happened.

If you don't remember - We have drafted, at #9 overall mind you, an undersized PG to come off the bench behind Felton - while ignoring the potential Allstar Center - when your bigs were Okafor (often injured), Diop (bleh) and Nazr (old). You don't have to wait months or years to see the affects of this terrible pick - all it takes is minutes. We also had the #20 pick. In this draft we wanted to walk away Guard and Big. We took the PG first and Hoping one of the other bigs would fall (Hibbert, JaVale, JJ Hickson or Ajinca). A run happened and all we were left with was Ajinca. If we took Lopez at #9, we still would have been able to grab (#22) Courtney Lee, (#25) Nick Batum or (#26) George Hill with the #20 pick. So instead of one bad pick - we doubled down and grabbed 2 terrible picks.

Instead of swallowing our pride and admitting we goofed - the next year - we draft Hendo instead of Allstars PGs = Jrue holiday and Jeff Teague - also there was Ty Lawson who wasn't an Allstar but was much better than Augustine. All three were taken just 4 picks after Hendo. But no worries - We now we have our SG of the future (who can't shoot the 3pt shot). Congrats - 1 bad move has now evolved into 3 really, really bad moves. It only took another season for everything to collapse and we completely started a rebuild after shipping Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace out for picks and players.

Signing Lance Stephenson (2014):
This one we all thought was a great move when it happened. I remember where I was when I heard the announcement come over the radio on my way to work.

By the time we figured it out, we were midway through the season and he had become a locker room cancer. We needed to move his contract - or did we? We had signed him to a 2 yr deal with a 3rd year team option. We were already done the 1st year when we decided to ship him to the Clipper for Spencer Hawes. Hawes had 3 years left on his terrible contract. So we basically flipped a bad contract for a even longer bad contract. But it didn't end there. After letting Hawes play for a year and a half (again, almost through with him..) - we decided to flip him for Plumlee. Probably the worst contract/deal I have seen since we traded Tyson Chandler for Erick Dampier.

So essentially, the Lance deal (3yr 27mil w/player option for 3rd) has caused us to go to Plumlee (4yr 48mil). When you keep kicking the can down the road - this is what happens

[Guest Horn ets]

I wanted Jrue so damn bad! MJ was too stupid. 

 

I could really be a HOF GM. 

[Wundrbread33]

Not drafting Lopez was definitely an "ouch" moment.

 

Plumlee trade looks terrible because Hibbert would come off the books and Hawes shortly after (although his 6 mil per looks fantastic in today's market even if he elected to opt into his player option).

 

I keep thinking, with our current contracts...is it even possible to make a competitive play for Curry on the dream scenario that he wants to come "home?"

[bLACKpANTHER]

after thinking about our franchise for the past few days and how terrible we really are - i think we need to stop protesting DeVos and Trump and start protesting Cho..

For some reason I thought he was decent at trades and FAs but just sucked at drafts.. now I'm really thinking he is just an overall terrible GM..

[Carl Spackler]

5 hours ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

i think we need to stop protesting DeVos and Trump and start protesting Cho..

Nah I'm still protesting DeVos and Trump

[bLACKpANTHER]

1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

Nah I'm still protesting DeVos and Trump

not trying to get this thrown in the tinderbox but... hell mutha-fuggin yeah!!

all my dummie friends, who i used to never be able to have a political conversation with - they now are totally pluggin in to what is going on.. possibly the only good thing the Orange King has done..

[Daddy_Uncle]

bad move after bad move with cho.

besides from the draft, terrible trade after terrible trade, signing lance stephenson and other horrible signings. Oh but he signed Marvin Williams and Nic Batum so hes a good GM in some people's eyes. Give me a great. If he wasn't MJs little bitch boy he would have been fired a long time ago

 

[rhyslloyd]

Cho is completely in over his head.  He has no eye for talent which is a trait he shares with MJ.  Unfortunately, he's willing to agree with everything MJ says, and that's how we've ended up in this situation.  No other professional sports franchise that I'm aware of can say they're owned by the GOAT.  That's pretty damn cool.  However, MJ needs to hire a real GM and stay completely out of the operations of this team.  He's the real problem.  He can't stay out of his own way.