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Football Outsiders Cain Fahey - Panthers receivers are terrible


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12 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Only 6 years older than Ricky Proehl.

And walked away from the Packers at about the same age that Proehl is walking away from the Panthers.

You were saying?

One in a million this mouth breather found scouring the internet for.

If it so common find me more than a handful, go ahead.

Also like I mentioned Proehl was not a prominent player like Greene.

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1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

Kevin Greene is not young, Gibbs Dungy, Cowherd? really? you can't be this dense, those guys were coaching for 20 plus years. Good god you are retarded.

It not common in any way for a guy whose only been coaching for 6 years to quit, especially a guy in Proehl situation where he wasn't a prominent pro bowl player.

I'm not sure how young you think Proehl is, but he's actually just a few weeks over a year younger than me (he turns 49 this year). Guess I'm "young" too.

Greene is 54, and he was about 50 or 51 when he retired. That puts he and Proehl in the same age bracket.  The two of them in fact played contemporaneously for almost ten years in the NFL.

And yes, there are guys who quit coaching after a short time. Coaching turnover happens annually, and not all of it is involuntary.

Add in that Pro Bowls have little if anything to do with coaching status. Heck, many of the best NFL coaches were only average players at best (Gary Kubiak was a career backup).

You don't know jack, kid.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not sure how young you think Proehl is, but he's actually just a few weeks over a year younger than me (he turns 49 this year). Guess I'm "young" too.

Greene is 54, and he was about 50 or 51 when he retired. That puts he and Proehl in the same age bracket.  The two of them in fact played contemporaneously for almost ten years in the NFL.

And yes, there are guys who quit coaching after a short time. Coaching turnover happens annually, and not all of it is involuntary.

Add in that Pro Bowls have little if anything to do with coaching status. Heck, many of the best NFL coaches were only average players at best (Gary Kubiak was a career backup).

You don't know jack, kid.

49 is young for a coach. The average coaches age is around 55 . And you had to scour the entire internet to find the one guy who quit almost as young as Proehl. Like I said if it's so common find me more.

 

I thought you couldn't get more retarded but now your saying Greene and Proehl careers are compatible. Proehl had a marginal career where he wasn't a stater for 75% of. Usually guys in Proehl situations go on to coach for a long time.

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1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

49 is young for a coach. The average coaches age is around 55 . And you had to scour the entire internet to find the one guy who quit almost as young as Proehl. Like I said if it's so common find me more.

I thought you couldn't get more retarded but now your saying Greene and Proehl careers are compatible. Proehl had a marginal career where he wasn't a stater for 75% of. Usually guys in Proehl situations go on to coach for a long time.

No "scouring" was needed, kid. Most of us who've been around since the beginning know, love and still follow Greene. Heck, his return to coaching was discussed on this very board in just the past few weeks. It's actually pretty telling that you didn't know about him.

Your lack of knowledge about Proehl is equally sad. Proehl was part of the Greatest Show on Turf (you probably don't know what that is either; look it up) where he gained a Super Bowl ring and had several clutch catches to seal victories (including a crucial one in a championship game).

But more to the point of this discussion, here are his own words.

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Ricky Proehl summed up his decision to step down as the Carolina Panthers’ receivers coach in eight words:

“I’m just trying to be a good dad.”

Being a good dad means different things for different people. But at a minimum, it means being around for your kids and their activities - in Proehl’s case, sports.

Coaching in the NFL doesn’t leave much time for watching other football games, something Proehl learned the hard way the past three seasons while his older son, Austin, was developing into one of North Carolina’s best receivers.

Proehl told his son when he left for Chapel Hill that if Austin became a starter and impact player for the Tar Heels, he would give up his coaching gig so he could watch him play.

On Monday -- after a two-hour meeting with Panthers owner Jerry Richardson and a sit-down with coach Ron Rivera -- Proehl made good on his promise.

“Your kid’s playing ball and they score that first touchdown and the first thing they do is look up at Mom and Dad. However old they are, that never changes,” Proehl said Tuesday. “And for the last three years, Austin’s looked up and I ain’t been there.”

“I just want to be true to my word,” Proehl added. “It’s as important to me as it is him. I get more enjoyment than he does, probably. I just want to go see him play his last season.”

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There’s another Proehl receiver in the pipeline behind Ricky, who played 17 NFL seasons (including three with the Panthers), and Austin, who caught 43 passes for 597 yards and three touchdowns in 2016 for the Tar Heels.

Blake Proehl, who starred at Providence High in the fall, is an East Carolina commitment.

So Ricky Proehl’s coaching hiatus figures to last at least four seasons.

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Proehl said leaving the Panthers’ relatively young receiving corps wasn’t easy. He looks at Kelvin Benjamin, Devin Funchess and the rest of the wideouts as family, too.

“That’s the hardest thing is them, because they’re still young guys and they’ve still got a lot to learn,” Proehl said. “Kind of walking away from them was tough.”

Proehl said Rivera initially was “shocked” because he didn’t see Proehl’s departure coming. But Rivera, a father of two, understood where he was coming from.

“Everybody’s been gracious,” Proehl said. “As hard as it was, how can you get mad at me for wanting to go see my son play?”

Pretty cut and dried...

Now, if you're actually dumb enough to believe he made that whole story about his sons up to hide the truth, I can't help you.

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Add in this final thought from Proehl...

"I'm going to be sitting in my PSLs in section 134," Proehl told Panthers.com. "This organization has been wonderful to me. At the end of the day, I'm still a huge fan."

Proehl: Family over football

Doesn't exactly sound upset...

And no, he isn't just being nice. There's absolutely nothing to prevent him from speaking his mind.

Likewise, a quick search can find you multiple articles where he talks up the talent of the  Panthers receiving corps.

You lose, kid. You've got nothing.

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6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

No "scouring" was needed, kid. Most of us who've been around since the beginning know, love and still follow Greene. Heck, his return to coaching was discussed on this very board in just the past few weeks. It's actually pretty telling that you didn't know about him.

Your lack of knowledge about Proehl is equally sad. Proehl was part of the Greatest Show on Turf (you probably don't know what that is either; look it up) where he gained a Super Bowl ring and had several clutch catches to seal victories (including a crucial one in a championship game).

But more to the point of this discussion, here are his own words.

Pretty cut and dried...

Now, if you're actually dumb enough to believe he made that whole story about his sons up to hide the truth, I can't help you.

Again one in a million. Proehl was a 3rd string receiver the majority of his career Grenne was featured player. 1000 of role players have SB rings is that suppose to mean something?

Keep eating up that fluff piece, Proehl is not as stupid as you. If you have conviction of your word and are not a coward make a ban bet with me. If Proehl returns within 3 years delete your account and never come back. I'll do the same if I'm wrong.

 

Either way you have avoided the main topic like a plague

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10 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Are you really dense? Or are you trolling?

Gettleman clearly stated that he and Ron talked, and opted to keep him. Stating "No, this was not fool's gold". 

The Huddle continues to mystify me...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/8846597/jerry-richardson-carolina-panthers-sure-dave-gettleman-ron-rivera-fix-things

"Gettleman did not have any input on the decision to retain Rivera. In fact, the two men never met until last week.

But Gettleman offered confidence in Rivera and the Panthers scouting department heading into next season."

NO.....he didn't.

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11 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Again one in a million. Proehl was a 3rd string receiver the majority of his career Grenne was featured player. 1000 of role players have SB rings is that suppose to mean something?

Keep eating up that fluff piece, Proehl is not as stupid as you. If you have conviction of your word and are not a coward make a ban bet with me. If Proehl returns within 3 years delete your account and never come back. I'll do the same if I'm wrong.

Either way you have avoided the main topic like a plague

You don't know jack about Proehl, kid.

Proehl probably has about four years out given that his younger son is only a freshman.  After that, he may come back to coaching. As far as your bet, feel free.  I'm hoping you'll actually grow up sometime in the next few years, but I'm not counting on it.

As to the topic, doesn't interest me. I don't take Football Outsiders or PFF any more seriously than I do any other generic "guy with a website" opinion.

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