What would you offer TD and Olsen?

[Omega Atrocity]

23 minutes ago, CRA said:

I'd want a GM that makes Olsen reasonably happy and Davis annoyed. 

We don't need to give Davis a thank you deal.  Davis was treated very well when times were rough and most teams wouldn't have. 

This. There are probably no other teams in the league that would've extended him coming off of two ACL tears. We stuck it out with him, and it turned out pretty good. for both of us.

Greg Olsen has the second highest cap hit in the NFL this season among tight ends already. I'd extend him sure, even go top three money, he deserves it, but I wouldn't go crazy. 

[thefuzz]

I would tell TD in no uncertain terms, play this year, and you get a Charles Johnson deal in the offseason...assuming you are healthy.

 

With Olsen, I sit down and ask exactly what is his plan?  You have two years left on your deal, and your cap hit over the next two years is pretty steep.  I may tack on another year to his deal, as he is very needed, and pay him up front for that one...don't want a 35 year old TE counting 12M against the cap.

If that doesn't work for all parties, I say thank you both for many years of great play, and I'll see you both at training camp.

 

My guess?  That's probably how it was going down, until JR decided to stick his nose in the deal.

[Pimpdaddy]

...He extends Stew ima blow this mfker up!!

[the_philosopher]

I don't agree with extending Olsen with two years left on a recently signed contract. Yes, he's underpaid relative to other tight ends, but the time for him to play hardball was two years ago. A big reason he got as much guaranteed money as he did was Dave thought he had potential to consistently be one of the top TE's in the league for those 4 contracted years, and so, was willing to assume the risk of paying a lot guaranteed money for a player that might not achieve that. Greg needs to remember that there are risks on both sides when a player signs a less than top-tier contract and gets much guaranteed upfront money; the player risks a couple seasons of being "underpaid" and the GM risks a couple season's of overpaying. It's that simple. And I think it's selfish in a team sport with a salary cap to whine about a contract being "unfair" when you get to the stage in the life of the contract where the other party's foreknown risks have been mitigated and your own become materialized. If this became normal, and GM's had to expect these kinds of holdouts and bitchings, they would have to take that into account in their guaranteed offerings on the earlier contracts. Greg is trying to cheat the system.

To clarify, there wouldn't be anything wrong with him seeking an extension, but threatening to holdout and causing any sort of riff in the team over this rubs me the wrong way.

[Untouchable]

Extend Davis 2 years with an average around 5 (maybe 6) mil.  That still leaves his contract up when Thompson would need to be resigned.  For Olsen, his contract was back loaded so it now jumps to reflect his standing as a premier TE but going by average salary (7.5 mil, 7th among TEs) he's still underpaid. If you're going to start over with Olsen i guess go with one averaging around 10 mil over 3-4 years and more guaranteed money (currently 12th among TEs) which one would think would have to be the sticking points for him.

[Cyberjag]

5 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Extend Davis 2 years with an average around 5 (maybe 6) mil.  That still leaves his contract up when Thompson would need to be resigned.  For Olsen, his contract was back loaded so it now jumps to reflect his standing as a premier TE but going by average salary (7.5 mil, 7th among TEs) he's still underpaid. If you're going to start over with Olsen i guess go with one averaging around 10 mil over 3-4 years and more guaranteed money (currently 12th among TEs) which one would think would have to be the sticking points for him.

I like this thinking.  Figure you give TD about 7 guaranteed and I bet he signs.

[RetiredCollegeCoach]

TD? A generous single-year extension.

Olsen? A sack lunch and a pat on the back. The thug mentality that saw him driven out of Chicago is rearing its head again. No amount of PR can hide it.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Just now, RetiredCollegeCoach said:

TD? A generous single-year extension.

Olsen? A sack lunch and a pat on the back. The thug mentality that saw him driven out of Chicago is rearing its head again. No amount of PR can hide it.

can't say i've ever heard of that.  would you mind expounding on this point?

[the greatest]

I'd offer td directions to where the exit doors are. And I'd give Olsen an extension after he plays this year on his contract a la Kawan short last year.

[RetiredCollegeCoach]

Can't until later (grandson's birthday) but let's just say the 7th Floor Crew never really disbanded.

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Pimpdaddy said:

...He extends Stew ima blow this mfker up!!

FUG.  I totally forgot one of Hurney's kryptonite RBs was still here.  

There needs to be a clause that Hurney can't do anything that involves RB deals and contracts. 

[CPcavedweller]

2 hours ago, the_philosopher said:

I don't agree with extending Olsen with two years left on a recently signed contract. Yes, he's underpaid relative to other tight ends, but the time for him to play hardball was two years ago. A big reason he got as much guaranteed money as he did was Dave thought he had potential to consistently be one of the top TE's in the league for those 4 contracted years, and so, was willing to assume the risk of paying a lot guaranteed money for a player that might not achieve that. Greg needs to remember that there are risks on both sides when a player signs a less than top-tier contract and gets much guaranteed upfront money; the player risks a couple seasons of being "underpaid" and the GM risks a couple season's of overpaying. It's that simple. And I think it's selfish in a team sport with a salary cap to whine about a contract being "unfair" when you get to the stage in the life of the contract where the other party's foreknown risks have been mitigated and your own become materialized. If this became normal, and GM's had to expect these kinds of holdouts and bitchings, they would have to take that into account in their guaranteed offerings on the earlier contracts. Greg is trying to cheat the system.

To clarify, there wouldn't be anything wrong with him seeking an extension, but threatening to holdout and causing any sort of riff in the team over this rubs me the wrong way.

The philosopher is about right. The only reasonable post in this entire situation is the one with no pie.