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The Taints are shopping Delvin Breaux. Seriously, can their defense get worse?

nctarheel0619

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1 minute ago, Nails said:

Hell if I know all, but there were many.  PFF for one, most of your fan base for another. Sounds like the Panther brain trust argument when Jimmy Clausen was taken in the 2nd in 2010-"how could this be?  He's so high on boards!  What a steal!"  At a minimum you pass on the sure thing at a more premium position (and desperate need) for a guy with major injury concerns.  Both are already on display.  I'm not sure most of who dat nation wouldn't prefer an A from Kiper.

Most of the fan base? My goodness. There was literally zero question who the top player on the board was when the Saints went to the podium. Lattimore was a consensus top 10 player. Payton said he was one of their top 3 prospects in the entire draft. This wasn't even a conversation.

Lattimore was the right pick. It wasn't even close.

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Back on topic. 

There were rumblings last year that Breaux was more hurt than injured. The staff and Drs. felt like he could play but he didn't. He's been injured most of this camp, and I'm not sure the same thing isn't going on.

Also, I've heard from multiple people that the staff feels like he doesn't have the same confidence he played with his rookie year. He's really struggled and they're concerned about it. I'd venture to day that has more to do with this talk than the injury stuff.

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19 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Most of the fan base? My goodness. There was literally zero question who the top player on the board was when the Saints went to the podium. Lattimore was a consensus top 10 player. Payton said he was one of their top 3 prospects in the entire draft. This wasn't even a conversation.

Lattimore was the right pick. It wasn't even close.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.  How did Lattimore look last week by the way?  

 

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34 minutes ago, stbugs said:

You may actually want to look at the details before posting something like this. Do tell us how much Brees' salary and cap are for 2018. He's not even in the cap space you listed for 2018. Personally, if Brees isn't on there and they have that cap space we are much better off. That said our cap space has Short's new deal and there's has no QB. Based on Brees' current deal and the fact that they are still carrying a bogus $18M on their cap for the next 3 years tells you their cap space isn't really that high. Again best case scenario for us is that Brees retires and they have $20M+ in cap space. If he's still there they have less cap room than us next year. 

"IF"

Maybe they go 0-16 this year and get Darnold or maybe they end up trading up for one of the top QB's in next years draft. 

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2 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

AKA ... the Panthers in 2 years. 

This is my concern. Even if Hurney isn't the permanent hire (which is a really BIG "if" IMO), he can do a lot of damage in the meantime. Possibilities of new deals for guys like Norwell, Star, Olsen, etc. make me really nervous with Hurney piloting the ship. God forbid he starts restructuring contracts and kicking the can further down the road. That's what really got him in trouble last time. Converting salaries to bonuses frees up money in the short-term, but at the big expense of greatly limiting future flexibility.

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1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

"IF"

Maybe they go 0-16 this year and get Darnold or maybe they end up trading up for one of the top QB's in next years draft. 

Nope, those fools will be 7-9 again, with no 2nd round pick to help move up and get one of the top QBs.

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40 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

So did Worley and Funchess last year, look how that played out.

So, we want people to look bad in camp? Or?

 

8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

When? According to this (http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2017/08/saints_rookies_marshon_lattimo.html) he hasn't played in camp since day 5 when he hurt his knee.

Not that we haven't had our own OSU draft pick injury issues.

Before the injury. He had some very good coverage on MT. 

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