Keep a bit of perspective when piling on Peppers

[scpanther22]

The notion that Allen is incredibly better than Peppers simply isn't based in reality, at least if you agree that production can be measured.

Even with his outburst, Allen has 64 sacks in six seasons

http://www.heraldonline.com/247/story/1655810.html

[Davidson Deac II]

It isn't really peppers fault that the team named him a franchise player and is paying him more than he (or any other defensive lineman) is worth.

Also, one other point in comparing Allen to Peppers. Allen was going up against the worst team in the NFC irt sacks allowed. They would be the worst even if you take away Allen's 4.5 sacks against them. Dallas is in the middle of the league. So Allen wasn't exactly going up against the best.

[Mesmer]

I would just like to point out that this article is flat out terrible, and really drops Gantt down a few notches in my book.

[monstercat]

The difference is that Allen loves football and is grateful for every opportunity he gets. Peppers, not so much. I don't think it's gonna matter much where Peppers plays or what kind of system he plays in either.

[Claws]

I'll agree with Monstercat.

Allen obviously cares while Peppers looks like he'd rather on a boat with Culpepper

Just saying.

[scpanther22]

The difference is that Allen loves football and is grateful for every opportunity he gets. Peppers, not so much. I don't think it's gonna matter much where Peppers plays or what kind of system he plays in either.

Hard to say that when we dont know them

[monstercat]

Hard to say that when we dont know them

Not really. Just watch them play.

[scpanther22]

Not really. Just watch them play.

I do..Allen is a high motor guy...and he shows it peppers could be that but he just does not show it. he has never been that.but you cant question his love for the game.. you dont know peppers or allen.

[monstercat]

I do..Allen is a high motor guy...and he shows it peppers could be that but he just does not show it. he has never been that.but you cant question his love for the game.. you dont know peppers or allen.

Well, if Peppers loves the game, then there is something physically wrong with him. I don't see any other reason why a DE as physically gifted as Peppers would get dominated one on one by a TE.

[Fireball77]

Yeah I don't care if he flails and flops around like Allen...just dominate guys he should dominate on a consistent basis.

He could love the game and not be hyper about it...but I get the FEELING he likes playing to the extent that he has the ABILITY to play. In other words, what if I could do something really well and make a lot of scratch but I didn't really thrill in it? I really liked to sing but had no talent at it. Well I would enjoy my actual talent for what it could do for me, but in and of itself? Maybe not.

[MrBubba]

Gannt actually makes the case against Peppers. Peppers is much more talented than Allen and yet Allen stays with him in stats based on heart. Also, Allen IMHO is more dangerous than Peppers he is a DE that teams actually do double; unlike the usual excuse for Peppers. Also even when Allen doesn't get sacks he makes his presence felt, he has to be accounted for. Peppers just disappears.

[Kettle]

I wonder how much pep loves the game too. monday night you could see that Allen truly does. The same can not be said about the last game for pep.

[Sultan33g]

Gannt actually makes the case against Peppers. Peppers is much more talented than Allen and yet Allen stays with him in stats based on heart. Also, Allen IMHO is more dangerous than Peppers he is a DE that teams actually do double; unlike the usual excuse for Peppers. Also even when Allen doesn't get sacks he makes his presence felt, he has to be accounted for. Peppers just disappears.

peppers is like the ghost of the huddle...

[CRA]

I wonder how much pep loves the game too. monday night you could see that Allen truly does. The same can not be said about the last game for pep.

Again, if Pep blew up against a team like GB.....he would be bashed for only "coming to play" against the weakest possible teams. Allen is being praised as some sort of half man, half god, half possible centaur b/c of that game..... Allen has a motor and is one of the best DE in the league.....but like a lot of DEs he shines brightest when against scrubs. As Gantt did point out, he had more games last year posting a goose egg than Pep.

Pep is not and has never been a elite pass rushing DE. He has been an elite DE. Big difference and effects your expectations of him.