The Walking Dead

[Proudiddy]

What's weird is I went back and watched The Watchmen since JDM started on TWD, and dude looked pretty effing big in Watchmen...  I don' know if he purposely leaned out or what, but PSC is right, his fragile looking frame takes away from the imposing nature he should have.

[Fryfan]

I have never liked Gabriel - but heck last nights storyline was an interesting one - something more then I can say for almost all of the past 3 seasons.

But damn--did I need the hilltop reacting to carls death montage and of course the guy carl saved has medical experience.... fug you walking dead!

 

And wait - zombie guts will infect people?   Are we supposed to just forget not one single person was ever infected as the rolled around in zombie guts....

 

 

 

 

[cookinbrak]

I think Negan wants to incorporate zombie juice into the bullets.

[Fryfan]

Rick cutting his own hand with a machete straight from a zombie skull.   Pretty sure from rules established on the show zombie guts in open wounds have zero effect.

 

 

[Proudiddy]

I was bored so i watched last night's episode for the first time since October's premiere, and I have to say, it was one of the best i've seen in several seasons as far as a singular episode goes.  Really liked the focus on Gabriel and the theme of faith, and then having Dr.Carson murdered was somewhat unexpected after all they went through.

That being said, I did take issue with what's her name luring Dwight into the woods to kill him, then immediately about face when the others worried about him selling them out.  Also, the prisoners begging to be let out for rec was dumb lol.  And lastly, as mentioned previously, the new plan from Negan makes zero sense considering the rules that have already been established in the TV series universe...  I've thought many a time throughout the series how curious it was that as often as characters fought off walkers and were scratched or may have gotten a walker's bodily fluid in an open wound, that they never became sick.  Surely most people in this world are dealing with open wounds often, as they are having to craft things and do things they wouldn't otherwise, yet, they can repeatedly cover themselves in zombie guts and not succumb to the virus?

So, I'm not sure how they're gonna pull this off....  I know the introduction of this idea ties into something that happened in the comic, but not sure how they'll hold the already established rules if they go this route.

 

[CRA]

11 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

Rick cutting his own hand with a machete straight from a zombie skull.   Pretty sure from rules established on the show zombie guts in open wounds have zero effect.

 

 

Daniel LaRusso beat Johnny of Cobra Kai with a crane kick to the face. Johnny of course was penalized for a strike to Daniel's face earlier in the match.  Rules have never mattered in TV/movies. 

[Cary Kollins]

Overall not a terrible episode, that's two in a row!

Yeah I was thinking Negan will incorporate walker blood in bullets as well. Not that it'd make too much of a difference, I mean getting shot with a regular bullet in the walker apocalypse should be bad enough with no hospitals and what not.

And yeah, if getting walker blood in your system was a death sentence, it makes those episodes where they covered themselves in guts look pretty ridiculous. Also wasn't it established with the Terminix folks that eating walker meat had no effect?

My god that Hilltop slo-mo "Carl's Dead" montage was something awful. I was racking my brain trying to figure out why they were so upset, was it because Daryl and crew crawled through a swamp for no reason other than it looked cool? Because they lost Dwight? Oh, it's because Carl died like five years ago. These writers are fugging dumb.

Wait, I missed most of last season so I assumed that baby at Hilltop was Maggie's....but apparently she's STILL pregnant (and not even showing a little)?  Jesus what the fug are they doing.

 

[Moorgan]

So last night, all of a sudden, Carol is the one saying kids are too young to handle the severity of what's happening around them? Carol? I swear these "characters" are never true to themselves and are simply 2 dimensional cut outs for the writers to say things.

Also blood on the bullets nonsense, as has been stated, contradicts every established fight in the series. The amount of blood and cuts in wounds or mouths or infected in tainted water like say a swamp or pond, etc. I questioned that idea in season 1 and came away with, oh I guess they have to bite you and nothing else. But now we're getting the myth of General Pershing in Neegan? This show makes me shake my head and I just watch it because now that I've stopped trying to rationalize it and defend it in my head, I can laugh openly at it and can actually enjoy it in a perverse way. I'm sick in the head I guess.

[Fryfan]

I am at the point that if the show has any chance of saving itself it needs to break from the comic books.   I dont care if the next group Rick encounters will be worse then the governor and the saviors combined.  I dont care if Rick will spend days contemplating if he needs to kill humans to save his human or if he wants to honor carl and take them in.

 

The execs and writers need to put a 2 - 3 year end date on the show.   Wrap up this crap with the savors and have our groups encounter a group that is working on/ close to a cure.   A lot of drama could be built over who gets control of the cure - does everyone want to use it...what will the aftermath be..with an end date set  they could set up a really interesting ending arc.

 

[Proudiddy]

With all of the contradictions and constant redux and recycling of the same plot devices, and the number of unbelievably bad and unrealistic (even for the established TWD universe standards) twists and turns, I'm honestly at the point that I want them to reveal Rick has been in a coma the entire time.

Yeah, it's cheap.  Yeah, it's janky.  But, somehow, it feels like the only way I'd be happy with the ending after how bad Gimple has butchered the series.  It's the only spending that would make all of it make sense, otherwise it just keeps getting that much more absurd.  It'd be an easy way to explain away such discrepancies like the biological warfare Negan is trying to introduce even though characters have been exposed non-stop since day one and didn't get infected. 

I used to hate the idea of them making that the outcome, but that's how badly they have derailed the show...

 

[Proudiddy]

Or, give them a new sanctuary to seek out.  A key selling point in pretty much any post-apocalyptic and/or zombie story is a place of refuge.  I was telling a friend that recently as we were discussing TWD, and I told him it feels like that was where they lost their way.  They knew Alexandria was the ultimate destination, and it's like they lost the ability to progress the ploy or develop the characters further once they reached it.  The whole series went stagnant once they got there.  It also lends itself to the idea, as I've suggested for years now, that they got lost once they caught up to the comic, so they tried to slow things down and just got lost.

So, give them a new REAL place of refuge to seek out, with hopes for a resolution or at least explanation of what happened to cause all of it and how can they manage it moving forward.  I know Kirkman has said he had no interest in explaining the virus or it's origins, and he seems to favor bleak, hopeless, unresolved situations over anything else, but again, it's the only way I can see them saving the series.  Either way, they need to put a end date on the series and figure it out.  This idea of indefinite hopelessness and stalled characters and plot progression will only continue to hurt the brand.

[Proudiddy]

32 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

I am at the point that if the show has any chance of saving itself it needs to break from the comic books.   I dont care if the next group Rick encounters will be worse then the governor and the saviors combined.  I dont care if Rick will spend days contemplating if he needs to kill humans to save his human or if he wants to honor carl and take them in.

 

The execs and writers need to put a 2 - 3 year end date on the show.   Wrap up this crap with the savors and have our groups encounter a group that is working on/ close to a cure.   A lot of drama could be built over who gets control of the cure - does everyone want to use it...what will the aftermath be..with an end date set  they could set up a really interesting ending arc.

 

Wow, I didn't see your post until after my two rants lol, but yes to all of this.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

lol breaking from the comics is what has ruined the fuging show

[jasonluckydog]

I disagree with most of you, you guys are over thinking this whole show. Here's a tip sit back relax and enjoy it for what it is not every episode will be a home run but every few episodes it's awesome best show on TV.  I would rather watch WD any version then half the crap on TV.  This is a fantasy show not a documentary