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I know it's not keen, but man. Props to Gettlemen again. At least when our QB goes down, we can still win games.


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36 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Would you say the Packers GM is garbage?  Look at their damn roster.  

Not sure, maybe.  No backup ever is gonna replace Rogers.  I don’t follow the Pack like their my team.  My team has Hurney and Shula, that uses up all my patience/hate to look around for more poo to bitch about.

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2 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Not sure, maybe.  No backup ever is gonna replace Rogers.  I don’t follow the Pack like their my team.  My team has Hurney and Shula, that uses up all my patience/hate to look around for more poo to bitch about.

I mean, from a personnel standpoint, I just can't fathom having Aaron Rodgers and not trying to put a great Defense around him.  I just don't get how as a GM you can be that complacent, and have such a shitty team around that great of a QB.  

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3 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

I mean, from a personnel standpoint, I just can't fathom having Aaron Rodgers and not trying to put a great Defense around him.  I just don't get how as a GM you can be that complacent, and have such a shitty team around that great of a QB.  

I mean, we have a franchise QB and we didn't see the need to put a competent OL around him. So, there is that.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, we have a franchise QB and we didn't see the need to put a competent OL around him. So, there is that.

Meh, they've had Aaron Rodgers for a lot longer than we've had Cam.  Plus, they've tried, it just hasn't worked out.  Even though we do have two phenomenal Guards.  And a solid RT.  

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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, we have a franchise QB and we didn't see the need to put a competent OL around him. So, there is that.

I get your point.  No reason not to have multiple titles with a guy like Rogers.  Seems you could patch a scrappy defense together or at least a solid run game.

Modern day Marino.

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2 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Meh, they've had Aaron Rodgers for a lot longer than we've had Cam.  Plus, they've tried, it just hasn't worked out.  Even though we do have two phenomenal Guards.  And a solid RT.  

I am pretty sure they have tried pretty hard to draft defensive players as well. But, luck and less than competent talent evaluation have not created successful scenarios in either of our cases.

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

I am pretty sure they have tried pretty hard to draft defensive players as well. But, luck and less than competent talent evaluation have not created successful scenarios in either of our cases.

I mean, they still have Clay Matthews and he's very blah at this point.  Clinton-Dix is solid, but, I dunno.  They haven't tried to sign anyone Free Agent wise, either.    

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Just now, L-TownCat said:

I get your point.  No reason not to have multiple titles with a guy like Rogers.  Seems you could patch a scrappy defense together or at least a solid run game.

Modern day Marino.

Nah, you can't throw the Marino scenario out on a guy that does actually have a ring. I would call it more a Peyton Manning scenario(post-2015 BS title).

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1 minute ago, JakeDel5674 said:

I mean, they still have Clay Matthews and he's very blah at this point.  Clinton-Dix is solid, but, I dunno.  They haven't tried to sign anyone Free Agent wise, either.    

If you look at most of their offseason signings, they have been predominately defensive players. I would equate that pretty similarly to our scenario on the OL while Cam has been here. They have TRIED but mostly failed miserably.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Nah, you can't throw the Marino scenario out on a guy that does actually have a ring. I would call it more a Peyton Manning scenario(post-2015 BS title).

Disagree, Peyton was Peyton’s problem.  Struggled to get over the hump.  Rogers is making chicken salad out of chicken poo.

Peyton had Faulk,Edgerin James and Freeney and Mathis

Rogers had/has Eddy Lacy, Ty Montgomery and Clay Matthews.

 

the ring is a big thing Marino never got but their situations are more alike than Rogers/Manning.

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16 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Disagree, Peyton was Peyton’s problem.  Struggled to get over the hump.  Rogers is making chicken salad out of chicken poo.

Peyton had Faulk,Edgerin James and Freeney and Mathis

Rogers had/has Eddy Lacy, Ty Montgomery and Clay Matthews.

 

the ring is a big thing Marino never got but their situations are more alike than Rogers/Manning.

Aaron Rodgers

GB Packers Total Defense Rankings

2008: 13
2009: 31
2010: 28
2011: 1 (Super Bowl)
2012: 22
2013: 9
2014: 18
2015: 18
2016: 22

Peyton Manning

Colts Total Defense Rankings

1998: 2
1999: 17
2000: 11
2001: 3
2002: 25
2003: 22
2004: 4
2005: 22
2006: 12
2007: 30 (Super Bowl)
2008: 22
2009: 15
2010: 13
 

Yeah, it looks like the historical stats do bear this out. Which, I wouldn't have disputed the "choker" label on Peyton, for sure. I had forgotten how good the Colts defense was at times, obviously.

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