Mario and Pep

[Hoenheim]

Imagine a Bizzaro world where Greg Hardy was a pious young man who did no wrong off the field and Peppers never left. 

[iamcline]

21 hours ago, thomas96 said:

Yeah but not with Mario

He was here with Rucker though and Rucker > Mario.

[t96]

14 minutes ago, iamcline said:

He was here with Rucker though and Rucker > Mario.

I'm not talking about Rucker I'm talking about Mario

[iamcline]

7 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

I'm not talking about Rucker I'm talking about Mario

You were implying that he could have been better with Mario (had he been here WITH Mario in his prime) and that's great but I was responding saying he was here with Rucker...and Rucker was/is better than Addison.

Sorry I didn't make that clearer.

[t96]

2 minutes ago, iamcline said:

You were implying that he could have been better with Mario (had he been here WITH Mario in his prime) and that's great but I was responding saying he was here with Rucker...and Rucker was/is better than Addison.

Sorry I didn't make that clearer.

I wasn't implying anything. Just saying imagine if we had a prime Pep on this team now instead of a 38 year old Pep. My comment had zero to do with anyone else on the teams Pep was on here when he was in his prime. Only Pep in his prime and our current team. Nothing else.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

Unfortunately, Pep is a dinosaur and has MAYBE one more year in him and Mario is 30. I know we just drafted Hall, but our solid line is awfully thin on the outside in terms of up and coming talent to fill their shoes. 

[PantherBoy95]

20 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

Idk about that. CJ and Hardy and co were bringing the heat every drive. But I’m glad we have Peppers back.

Could you imagine having Peppers and Hardy together if he wasn’t such a moron?

I was thinking the same. I know Greg ended up badly, and CJ isn't elite now. But people I can remember watching that line absolutely terrorize on Every.Single.Play.  I mean there was absolute pressure on each play.

I literally remember wanting to watch us on Defense as much as wanting to watch on Offense...we were that special.

[t96]

46 minutes ago, My Goodness My Guinness said:

Unfortunately, Pep is a dinosaur and has MAYBE one more year in him and Mario is 30. I know we just drafted Hall, but our solid line is awfully thin on the outside in terms of up and coming talent to fill their shoes. 

What in the world makes you think Pep has maybe one more year in him? There's been no indication of him slowing down so if he wants to keep playing he can still play at a high level. Obviously could hit a wall at any time but there's been no indication he's close to the end.

And yes Mario is 30 but has very little wear and tear on him. Could see him having another 4-5+ years playing at a high level easily.

All that aside though, I agree we need youth at the DE position. I badly want an elite every down player like we had in Hardy and CJ in 2013. Mario has gotten to that level now I think but Pep is still just a part time player. Would've loved to have gotten Barnett this year and had a rotation of him, Mario and Pep. DE should be a position we target in the first two rounds next year for sure, maybe even trade up with the Bills' pick. Hall may work out but based on where he was drafted it's unlikely he turns into much more than a rotational player. Would love for him to turn into a stud, but can't count on it.

[t96]

1 hour ago, PantherBoy95 said:

I was thinking the same. I know Greg ended up badly, and CJ isn't elite now. But people I can remember watching that line absolutely terrorize on Every.Single.Play.  I mean there was absolute pressure on each play.

I literally remember wanting to watch us on Defense as much as wanting to watch on Offense...we were that special.

Yeah, that 2013 DL was completely frigging insanely good because of Hardy and CJ before CJ got leg whipped by the cheaters. Our D that year was every bit as good as if not better than the Seahawks by the end of the year. The secondary was a bunch of scraps put together that somehow worked, our LBers were obviously the best in the league and our interior line was very solid with rookies Star and KK as well as Dwan Edwards. But it was really Hardy and CJ that year that were the difference makers along with our LBers in that year's elite defense. What we've been missing since that special year on D is elite DE play. 2014 Hardy was out and CJ hasn't been the same since that leg whip. Mario is coming on now though and is looking like a beast like CJ was back then, but haven't had a DE on Hardy's level since then.

[rippadonn]

I'll go ahead and get in on the Hall bandwagon. He's going to be good, in 2yrs or so.