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An underappreciated reason why Cam is so valuable


teeray

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Keep an eye out on the safety for the Vikings.  He knows he has to get to Cam if he keeps it on the bootleg.  So once Jonathan Stewart breaks it to the secondary, there was no one left to stop Stewart resulting in the easy touchdown.

It's things like this that you have taken into account when understanding just how good and valuable Cam Newton really is

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3 minutes ago, Snake said:

By far the best play Shula has drawn up all year. 

It was a good play design.

Except that if one of the offense of lineman didn't get it blocked up we would have had internet offensive coordinators saying "derp we ran the ball against the nine-man Box. Shula is such an idiot we should fire him"

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Just now, teeray said:

It was a good play design.

Except that one of the offense of lineman didn't get a blocked up we would have had internet offensive coordinators saying "derp we ran the ball against the nine-man Box. Shula is such an idiot we should fire him"

And they would have been right. It's only right if the players pull it off. 

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Just now, Snake said:

And they would have been right. It's only right if the players pull it off. 

If that is your standard of what is good play-calling and what isn't.  There will never be an offense of coordinator in the history of the Panthers that you'll ever be satisfied with

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23 minutes ago, teeray said:

Keep an eye out on the safety for the Vikings.  He knows he has to get to Cam if he keeps it on the bootleg.  So once Jonathan Stewart breaks it to the secondary, there was no one left to stop Stewart resulting in the easy touchdown.

It's things like this that you have taken into account when understanding just how good and valuable Cam Newton really is

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Damn that sure looks like a running back that is slow indecisive and finished,...

im still waiting for the haters to explain themselves out of this one.

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2 minutes ago, Jangler said:

Clearly that was a blown coverage and not knowing what the other team will do....

if Shula would anticipate the other team more often, maybe he would be a decent OC.

Wasn't so much of a blown coverage as it is the fact that when teams play us they always have to account for the quarterback.  Safety look like he had the QB which left them with essentially zero coverage.

At least that's how I see it looking at that play

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27 minutes ago, teeray said:

If that is your standard of what is good play-calling and what isn't.  There will never be an offense of coordinator in the history of the Panthers that you'll ever be satisfied with

Never was a play designed to be stopped.  In theory every play is perfect.  The only problem is that the defense has to do what you expect it to be doing.

For instance, you could draw the perfect play against the perfect defensive matchup possible.  Now say a defender accidentally misreads the offense And Is out of position.  Now the defender being not where he is supposed to be actually ends up making the play, int, pbu, whatever.  The play was perfect but it failed.

Aside from anomalies like that, there are situations that dictate choices.  In these situations such as late game, 3rd and long, down by 6, a pass is expected.  What kind of pass here is important.  Quick out route or 7 step drop on a double move with no checkdowns?  

Our staff shows no rhyme or reason to the play calling in specific situations.  They just try poo.  Cam is getting freedom to audible but it’s still the same hairbrained plays designed by Shulatic.

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