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This fan base has fallen off a cliff when it comes to this Norv Turner hatred

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panthers55 Grand Master

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10 minutes ago, mjligon said:

What are you talking about?

I quit talking to you when you compared the offense Atlanta ran with Vick to what we have been running with Cam.

Sorry if I reference conversations older than the last 30 minutes. I am talking about the last 5 years. Plus we were not comparing what Atlanta runs to what we run. You said no team has ever counted on a quarterback to be both a big time runner and passer and I brought up 3 names of players for teams from 3 eras which prove you wrong. 

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29 minutes ago, mjligon said:

It's pretty silly to judge an OC on their W/L record.

That is how all coaches and coordinators are judges because that is the bottom line. Even total yards, scoring and other stats are highly dependent on things outside their control like field position, opposition,  turnovers, scoring opportunities. 

Funny how these defenses never came up talking about Shula.

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46 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Sorry if I reference conversations older than the last 30 minutes. I am talking about the last 5 years. Plus we were not comparing what Atlanta runs to what we run. You said no team has ever counted on a quarterback to be both a big time runner and passer and I brought up 3 names of players for teams from 3 eras which prove you wrong. 

Not a single one of the quarterbacks you mentioned were used constantly as the team's primary running back.

I'm talking read option, designed QB runs....multiple times per game. 

I am really not sure what is so hard to understand about that.

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44 minutes ago, mjligon said:

Not a single one of the quarterbacks you mentioned were used constantly as the team's primary running back.

I'm talking read option, designed QB runs....multiple times per game. 

I am really not sure what is so hard to understand about that.

Now that you quantified your post to include only  read option design quarterbacks you are correct since no one else uses our exact system. So he is unique. It wouldn't have been hard to understand if you had been clear in your posts instead of changing and modifying your post until you are finally correct about something.

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2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

I suspect he already knows what we run and is okay with it. After all he has relatives with insider knowledge and likely has been talking at length with them to decide if he wants the job. But no we aren't going to change players wholesale. GMs can't just snap their fingers and have franchise players magically appear in the draft or free agency.

Some teams do...a couple are playing thus weekend..one notorious for moving on players in their prime before decline. 

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