Why doesn't anyone include Steve Smith in their top 10 WR lists?

[RealisticPanther]

This has always bugged me, because to me, he was better than TO many years, Chad Johnson in his prime, marvin harrison

and the one name that always gets me is when people include Larry Fitzgerald.

Fitzgerald has always been a slightly less good steve smith. Both had the best hands IMO although if i had to choose smith gets the nod, but larry lacked the big play ability smith did down the field and the speed, even in jump ball situations smith was better, Smith was just better in every area. Plus he showed he could do it with another team in another system even when he was past his prime.

Then you look at Harrison, u cant argue with numbers, but Harrison and a lot of others people couldn't do what smith did say against the seahawks in 2005 demanding he return the kick and then scoring a touchdown to give them hope again, he tried to put that team on his back that game, those are the type of plays(and attitude) GREAT, ELITE players make. 

Steve Smith was so clutch and had so much fight and carried the team single-handedly so many times. Forget stats and all that, just using the eye test...how can you put players like harrison and fitzgerald above him? How can Smith be in no one's top 10? Ridiculous to me.

[LinvilleGorge]

As much as I love Jake, if Smitty had the luxury of playing with a legit top QB he would've put up even bigger numbers. Ot pains me to admit it, but the biggest difference between Smitty and Antonio Brown is Jake cam Big Ben.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

he's a much bigger deal in this fanbase than elsewhere

[Adb6368]

Larry Fitzgerald is 3rd all time in receiving yds... I don't care if he plays for 100 yrs - being able to do it for that long and be successful is a feat. Smith is 8th all time, but that includes Tony Gonzales ahead of him. Notable receivers behind Smith (14,731 yds) include Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison (both I believe are overrated based on the Manning factor) as well as Andre Johnson, C Carter, Bolden, Holt, Reed, etc. etc. 

By my estimation, Steve Smith is a no brainer top 10 receiver of all time, regardless of what any expert, fan, computer generated polls may say. 

[OneBadCat]

To be honest I see him being respected a lot more lately since his Baltimore seasons. I do see him in some top 10 lists.

The only thing Fitzgerald had over Smith was longevity and playing with Kurt Warner and a legit #2 WR for most of his prime. Smith was definitely a better player just based on ability.

Smith is probably top 6-7 for me. AB has edged him out I think at this point or will shortly.

 

[RealisticPanther]

9 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

To be honest I see him being respected a lot more lately since his Baltimore seasons. I do see him in some top 10 lists.

The only thing Fitzgerald had over Smith was longevity and playing with Kurt Warner and a legit #2 WR for most of his prime. Smith was definitely a better player just based on ability.

Smith is probably top 6-7 for me. AB has edged him out I think at this point or will shortly.

 

But Larry Fitzgerald doesn't even have longevity depending on how you mean it over smith, Smith could've kept playing if he wanted to and kept playing just as good as Fitzgerald, he just chose to retire.

And I disagree with "Jake being a hell of a QB", he was a hell of a QB for the same reason Cam was his rookie season, he just threw the ball up to smith who either burned somebody badly or would jump up in glue coverage and come down with the ball. Jake did the same thing with Smith that you saw Ben do with AB in the last game against the jags, he knew he had an elite receiver that would find a way so he just chunked the ball up even in glue coverage or over under coverage and trusted his receiver to make a play. That doesn't make the QB good, that means the receiver is good.

[Johnny Rockets]

Who puts Chad Johnson in a top 10 WR list?

As far as Fitz, he deserves all the credit he gets. Guy is a baller and has the best hands in football. Best WR in playoff history, Top 3 in receptions, one of the best blocking WRs ever, 10 time pro bowler, never misses games and has done all that while playing with something around 16 different QBs! There is nothing a rational person could argue against him being one of the best in history. 

 

[KendrickPanther]

These are blanket statements. Steve Smith is very well respected by everyone in the media. Saying he's not on some top 10 list seems trivial. 

[RealisticPanther]

2 minutes ago, Johnny Rockets said:

Who puts Chad Johnson in a top 10 WR list?

As far as Fitz, he deserves all the credit he gets. Guy is a baller and has the best hands in football. Best WR in playoff history, Top 3 in receptions, one of the best blocking WRs ever, 10 time pro bowler, never misses games and has done all that while playing with something around 16 different QBs! There is nothing a rational person could argue against him being one of the best in history. 

 

I don't see how you put him above steve smith on any planet, though. And no one puts Chad Johnson in a top 10 WR list, but during his prime with Cinci for a couple years he was considered one of the top 3 receivers by most people, so I was comparing steve smith to a prime chad johnson which i suppose is kind've arbitrary given the context of the topic. 

I mean, people will argue TO was better than Moss now which is completely ridiculous because that wasn't even a thought when he was playing but still won't give steve smith the credit he deserves, and smith was better than TO imo skill-wise, i don't know what you all think.

[Mr. Scot]

Larry Fitzgerald is easily one of the best ever.

[Snake]

Because he's not a top 10 receiver. I mean he had to be cut just to get motivated. 

[RealisticPanther]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Larry Fitzgerald is easily one of the best ever.

not saying he isn't, although i think a lot of times, like in the case of marvin harrison, people confuse production and numbers and longevity with skill, that should be part of the story but not the end all be all.

My point isn't that larry isn't great, but that Smith clearly was a better, more talented receiver than either of those two and had an "IT" factor and intangibles those two didn't have, at least not to the degree he did.

I don't agree with any argument that they should be put above him because of super bowl rings or numbers, they just clearly weren't as good or talented as receivers and also had a much better supporting cast and environment than smith ever did.

[Johnny Rockets]

17 minutes ago, RealisticPanther said:

I don't see how you put him above steve smith on any planet, though. 

I don't know about other planets but he is on Earth. 

And that's not slighting Steve Smith and his accomplishments in any way. Fitz is just that good. 

[RealisticPanther]

Anyone who thinks Fitzgerald was better than smith, doesn't have eyes. You use the eye test, there's no way you can say Fitz was better. Its very frustrating to me that anyone would say otherwise because its plain as day. Fitz just was never as talented.