A chance that Norwell stays?

[Ricky Spanish]

People are also forgetting that we have an out with Matt Kalil's contract after next season. He got PAID the first two years, and then has a minimal cap penalty to remove after next year. So purging Ryan this offseason, then his brother the next offseason would allot us enough money to re-sign the likes of Norwell this season, re-sign Williams the next season, and then see if Moton or a rookie tackle TBD is good enough to take over LT duties moving forward. It's also a tryout for Larsen moving forward to see if he's the long term answer at C, or if we need to draft a guy there as well. 

[ericr0319]

41 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

People are also forgetting that we have an out with Matt Kalil's contract after next season. He got PAID the first two years, and then has a minimal cap penalty to remove after next year. So purging Ryan this offseason, then his brother the next offseason would allot us enough money to re-sign the likes of Norwell this season, re-sign Williams the next season, and then see if Moton or a rookie tackle TBD is good enough to take over LT duties moving forward. It's also a tryout for Larsen moving forward to see if he's the long term answer at C, or if we need to draft a guy there as well. 

agree. Older Kalil needs to go. Loyalty does not win championships. Old guys eating cash sitting on the bench loses them. Cut Kalil, resign Norwell. I wouldnt even mind trying Moton out at LT next year. 

[ericr0319]

45 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

People are also forgetting that we have an out with Matt Kalil's contract after next season. He got PAID the first two years, and then has a minimal cap penalty to remove after next year. So purging Ryan this offseason, then his brother the next offseason would allot us enough money to re-sign the likes of Norwell this season, re-sign Williams the next season, and then see if Moton or a rookie tackle TBD is good enough to take over LT duties moving forward. It's also a tryout for Larsen moving forward to see if he's the long term answer at C, or if we need to draft a guy there as well. 

wouldnt we still be in for 14 mil if we cut Matt next year? 

[heel31ok]

23 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

agree. Older Kalil needs to go. Loyalty does not win championships. Old guys eating cash sitting on the bench loses them. Cut Kalil, resign Norwell. I wouldnt even mind trying Moton out at LT next year. 

We need to try someone out at left tackle next year...plus draft another LT...

[Ricky Spanish]

1 hour ago, ericr0319 said:

wouldnt we still be in for 14 mil if we cut Matt next year? 

Negative, we will be on the hook for 7.2 million, and we can space that out over two years making the hit only 3.6 per year. Much more reasonable and easier to get out of than what people think.

[MHS831]

2 hours ago, Cracka McNasty said:

People are also forgetting that we have an out with Matt Kalil's contract after next season. He got PAID the first two years, and then has a minimal cap penalty to remove after next year. So purging Ryan this offseason, then his brother the next offseason would allot us enough money to re-sign the likes of Norwell this season, re-sign Williams the next season, and then see if Moton or a rookie tackle TBD is good enough to take over LT duties moving forward. It's also a tryout for Larsen moving forward to see if he's the long term answer at C, or if we need to draft a guy there as well. 

Cracka for GM.   Good stuff.

[ericr0319]

1 hour ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Negative, we will be on the hook for 7.2 million, and we can space that out over two years making the hit only 3.6 per year. Much more reasonable and easier to get out of than what people think.

elaborate. 

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

elaborate. 

 

 

2019

29

$7,000,000

$2,400,000

$750,000

$2,500,000

$250,000

$12,900,000

$7,200,000

 

The only numbers that really matters there is $12.9M and $7.2M. $12.9M is his cap hit in 2019 if he's on the roster. $7.2M is the "dead money" figure meaning that is bonus money that has already been paid that will hit our cap no matter if he's on the roster or we cut him. So, if we cut him after next season, it will be a $7.2M cap hit in 2019. The way you can spread that out over two years making it $3.6M in both 2019 and 2020 is by designating him as a post-June 1st cut.

[ericr0319]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 

 

2019

29

$7,000,000

$2,400,000

$750,000

$2,500,000

$250,000

$12,900,000

$7,200,000

 

The only numbers that really matters there is $12.9M and $7.2M. $12.9M is his cap hit in 2019 if he's on the roster. $7.2M is the "dead money" figure meaning that is bonus money that has already been paid that will hit our cap no matter if he's on the roster or we cut him. So, if we cut him after next season, it will be a $7.2M cap hit in 2019. The way you can spread that out over two years making it $3.6M in both 2019 and 2020 is by designating him as a post-June 1st cut.

right, but even when i played with that on over the cap i didnt get those numbers

[Ricky Spanish]

15 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

elaborate. 

Here's a Chart I made:

JKJK it's from spotrac. As you can see, Gettleman inserted a fail-safe into the contract in the event Kalil was dildos. Something Hurn-dog never did with any of his long term deals. So while initial reports were for the deal being a 5 year $55 million deal, we were only ever on the hook for the bonus of about $25 million, and it was structured so that the majority of that $25 mil would hit the first two years. So if he was good, we had a long term solution at LT that would have a contract worthy. If he sucked, we could nuke the contract after two years and still be good long term.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

right, but even when i played with that on over the cap i didnt get those numbers

over the cap is wrong

[ericr0319]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

over the cap is wrong

thanks. you think we extend Olsen this year and spread some of his contact out? his number pretty high this year. 

[LinvilleGorge]

32 minutes ago, ericr0319 said:

thanks. you think we extend Olsen this year and spread some of his contact out? his number pretty high this year. 

Didn't Hurney just give him some more money within a week or so of being named interim GM? His cap figure is actually about $2.5M less than last year.

[uncfan888]

Bruh.. @mjligon