Giants control the draft?

[DaveThePanther2008]

I found this on CBS Sports.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/why-giants-and-dave-gettleman-control-how-the-first-round-of-the-2018-nfl-draft-unfolds/

I am more inclined to believe the Browns still control the draft.  They have 2 of the 1st for pick.  What they do will dictate what the Giants will do.

If they Take Chubbs or Barkley with the first pick.  This leaves Barkley open for NYG. 

[top dawg]

Barkley has to be the first pick.  He just has to be.  I know it's  the Browns,  but even they can't find a way not to take Barkley.  This is a KISS moment if I've ever seen one.  

 

 

 

I also expect them to make a run at AJ McCarron. 

[Jangler]

[Mr. Scot]

I think if you looked back to prior years, you'd find an article explaining how the team with the #2 pick actually controls the draft on almost an annual basis.

The theory generally goes that once the team at #1 has a consensus pick or narrows its focus or indicates they won't trade down or blah blah whatever, the #2 team is sitting in the driver's seat. I didn't read the above article, but it won't surprise me if it's based on some variation of that theme.

I guess every year or so this notion hits some analyst like a revelation and they believe they have a new idea, so then off we go again.

Heck, I think one that's those articles might even have been written about us the year we had that pick.

[RumHam]

If the Browns get a FA QB, then Barkley is the shoe-in. However, the two options that they've fuged up on with Alex Smith and Captain Kirk really rule out that happening. I just don't think anyone wants to play up there and they may not have a choice but to draft a QB. They should be breaking the bank for Kirk. Or just sign Kaperneck and get it over with. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, RumHam said:

If the Browns get a FA QB, then Barkley is the shoe-in. However, the two options that they've fuged up on with Alex Smith and Captain Kirk really rule out that happening. I just don't think anyone wants to play up there and they may not have a choice but to draft a QB. They should be breaking the bank for Kirk. Or just sign Kaperneck and get it over with. 

Scenarios based on the Browns doing the right thing or the smart thing rarely pan out.

[DaveThePanther2008]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think if you looked back to prior years, you'd find an article explaining how the team with the #2 pick actually controls the draft on almost an annual basis.

The theory generally goes that once the team at #1 has a consensus pick or narrows its focus or indicates they won't trade down or blah blah whatever, the #2 team is sitting in the driver's seat. I didn't read the above article, but it won't surprise me if it's based on some variation of that theme.

I guess every year or so this notion hits some analyst like a revelation and they believe they have a new idea, so then off we go again.

Heck, I think one that's those articles might even have been written about us the year we had that pick.

You're pretty spot on about how the article reads.

In most years but because they have #4 I think they have more power on the way the draft will go.  Most mocks have them taking Darnold.  However, if they take Barkley that shakes up the top 5 all together.  Plus at number 4 they still will get a "Predicted" Franchise QB.

 

[DaveThePanther2008]

3 hours ago, Marcogreenbush said:

Is this a giants forum? Gettleman has too many fanboys for doing nothing special 

Read the article.  It isn't about Gettleman it is about how the draft might fallout based on the Giants move.  This is the offseason and though it won't affect us to much it is a conversation about the draft.

IF you don't like the thread.  DON'T COMMENT...  It is pretty simple.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

You're pretty spot on about how the article reads.

In most years but because they have #4 I think they have more power on the way the draft will go.  Most mocks have them taking Darnold.  However, if they take Barkley that shakes up the top 5 all together.  Plus at number 4 they still will get a "Predicted" Franchise QB.

Long time Brown's reporter Tony Grossi has been arguing vehemently against them taking Barkley. He believes the Browns absolutely must get the right quarterback first because they've screwed it up far too many years in a row..

He may have a point.

[DaveThePanther2008]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Long time Brown's reporter Tony Grossi has been arguing vehemently against them taking Barkley. He believes the Browns absolutely must get the right quarterback first because they've screwed it up far too many years in a row..

He may have a point.

They probably will anyhow. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

They probably will anyhow. 

Betting on the Browns screwing up is generally a safe play.

Dorsey's no fool, though.

[imminent rogaine]

4 hours ago, top dawg said:

Barkley has to be the first pick.  He just has to be.  I know it's  the Browns,  but even they can't find a way not to take Barkley.  This is a KISS moment if I've ever seen one.  

 

 

 

I also expect them to make a run at AJ McCarron. 

Draft Barkley, trade back in the first, get a tackle and a guard. Throw everything at Cousins. If that doesn't work get Keenum (or bradford and start praying for health). 

Defense gets Peppers back and year 2 and 3 for Garret, Nassib, Ogbah.

This team is seriously that close to playoffs if they get their head out of their ass.

[top dawg]

A.J. McCarron will be their guy.  Rumor has it that those in the know, feel like he can be a legitimate starter in the NFL,  Hue being chief among them. 

[Toker Smurf]

At some point I would think some QB would say they want to go to the Browns. Someone confident (or cocky) enough to believe they can help turn that franchise around.