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Voth doesn't think Safety or DE is in the cards for 1st


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26 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Really? This board didn’t nickname him that. That’s what his nickname was early in college. I think from his success freshman year. 

That nickname is apparently from scouts.

NFL scouts believe Kirk is just beginning to scratch the surface of his raw potential, believing he can be a dynamic playmaker in the NFL. Kirk has drawn comparisons to New York Giants wide receiverOdell Beckham, with some scouts dubbing him the nickname "Baby Beckham."

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/Bolt/Christian-Kirk-draws-comparisons-to-Odell-Beckham-115389873/Amp

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Just now, WOW!! said:

Reaching for 1 in the 1st round is a bigger mistake.. None of these guys are 1st round talent..

It's not a reach if the player is BPA , just cause a guy has a Saftey or DE next to his name doesn't make him a better football player.

 

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1 minute ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

It's not a reach if the player is BPA , just cause a guy has a Saftey or DE next to his name doesn't make him a better football player.

 

There are way more safety and CB with 1st round grades.. The 5th safety is better than the best TE in this draft.. We will find a solid TE in the 2nd or 3rd round where most of them are rated to go..

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13 minutes ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

It's not a reach if the player is BPA , just cause a guy has a Saftey or DE next to his name doesn't make him a better football player.

 

True, but there won't be a S or DE there worth the pick.  Hurst is not worth that pick...too old.  I think offense at 24 if we don't move back.  Our defense is what it is...Norv will get some pieces. 

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10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If a TE in this draft is the BPA on our draft board at #24 then I hope we trade down. Maybe some team wants to jump up to take a Rudolph or Jackson at QB.

If a TE is BPA on our draft board then our scouting department is horrible and we are in terrible shape. 

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