Cam is on the injury list

[CRA]

2003 Delhomme was magical.  Gotta give Jake that year.   He didn't put us on his back as it was a great well rounded team but Jake had some weird voodoo that belonged to him. 

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

Seems like you’re not the best at communicating...

Oh, hey it’s you! Are you okay from earlier? Have your emotions settled?

[Snake]

35 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

See 2004 - arguably Delhomme's best year. Pro Bowl and narrowly missed the playoffs - thanks defense. Oh yea, Steve Smith didnt play that year. Have to give JD some credit at least.

 

 

Moose had a lot to do with that. 

[TheCasillas]

5 minutes ago, Snake said:

Moose had a lot to do with that. 

Why did the bears passing game suck when he went there, shouldn’t of moose fixed it then by that logic?

jake had a good grip on Dan H.’s offense.  I don’t why we are down playing the second best QB in franchise history. He had some bad years, but 2004 was the best year of his career and it was without Steve Smith.  Our defense was middle of the road that year but we had a strong offense.

[raz]

some of us have a bad taste in our mouth about jake because we were at the playoff game where he threw 5 picks against the cards at home.   but, 2003 was the most magical season ive ever experienced with this team.   i loved that team.    i'll always love jake.  he's my favorite panther qb ever.    took me a long time to forgive him though.  i love cam, but not like i loved jake.  everything about that cajun mother *********er.  and its not because jake is white dammit.   

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Jake really doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Cam.

[pantherclaw]

This thread has derailed quickly. 

God Bless the Huddle.

[CRA]

11 minutes ago, Lee89 said:

we are all greatful for Cam and know how lucky we are to have him but that don't take away the fact Jake was the man also in his prime and was a great leader to this team same as Cam is now.

I think Jake was a great emotional leader.  Especially pre Tommy John.  He never seemed to the have same magic after that.   I'm not just talking about his play but his vibe and energy never was the same IMO.   In some aspects, I liked the way Jake's leadership consistently came off vs Cam. 

But Jake isn't even in the discussion IMO in terms if play at QB.  Cam is just in a different tier.  He puts the franchise on his back and they overall have invested very little into what has been around him.  He legitimately has been the actual MVP pretty much since he was drafted.  No team depends on one player more. 

[JJT]

Did someone change the subject and not tell me?

[Snake]

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

Why did the bears passing game suck when he went there, shouldn’t of moose fixed it then by that logic?

jake had a good grip on Dan H.’s offense.  I don’t why we are down playing the second best QB in franchise history. He had some bad years, but 2004 was the best year of his career and it was without Steve Smith.  Our defense was middle of the road that year but we had a strong offense.

By what logic? Because Moose had one of his best seasons a year before and a contract year? Stop trying to make Delhomme out to be more than he was and that's a game manager. 

[UncleWillie]

He finished the last game and played well at the end. He'll be aight

[raz]

shoot, jake couldn't manage a game if his life depended on it.  he was not that kind of qb at all.   

[raz]

and, oh yeah, get better cam

 

[panthers55]

The difference between Cam and Jake is that Cam is an athlete and is big strong and would excel in any sport. Jake wouldn't even stand out if you didn't know who he was. He was not athletic, couldn't run or elude anyone but he had magic ESP with Smitty and just could throw the ball where it needed to be until he shredded his arm. He won on desire and fire willing a victory. Cam on the other hand has the tools to excel and it took a few years for him to really come into his own.