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Opinions: How do we beat the Saints?

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5 minutes ago, keeppoundingyourself said:

we lost 3 in a month to them last year.  they look improved (as do we obvi).  it will boil down to cam vs drew in a big spot.  anybody willing to remove homer glasses and accept that is not a great scenario for a W for us? 

I dont give a poo about your team, but Atlanta is in your corner. Need Cam to show out. Give em hell Olsen!!

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45 minutes ago, theDIRTYcode2 said:

You dont have the offense to beat the Saints. But maybe, just maybe, you have the defense.

You clearly have not watched our D this year. We’re average. Our d is living off reputation... but if our offense keeps playing like that, we can get away with an average D 

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1 hour ago, Jmac said:

Obviously one of the best teams in the league. We will be chasing them till late December when we play. No team is unbeatable and they very well may lose a game or two by then. 

Zone defense will not work against Brees, especially without a stellar pass rush. We can probably score points on them with Norv's inventive play calling and the emergence of our rookies.

Can the defense handle man to man coverage and sent blitz packages to disrupt his rhythm? Opinions on how the Defense can slow them down

You play too much Madden. It isn't as simple as man or zone. We have beat Breesus before with zone. 

Aside from 2013 in which we won 19-17 in a rain soaked game in December for the NFCS Championship, these games are always high scoring. We have an element that we didn't have last season which is a new offensive coordinator with speed at every receiver position if it is needed. The defense will give up 31+ so the offense needs to put up around 32+ to win. This has almost always been our formula for beating competent Saints teams. 

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1 minute ago, CPcavedweller said:

We absolutely have the offense and our defense right now is better than the Rams. You all realize that this is the Bucs lowest offensive output in a road game this season? 

Beating the Bucs does not make our defense better than the Rams.

That #1 ranking was always a paper tiger.

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1 hour ago, New York Panther said:

Here is the definitive answer:

We must match them score for score early on. Historically when teams answer back and the saints have pressure to keep scoring they will eventually make a mistake (i.e. ingrams fumble tonight) then we must capitalize  on their mistakes. And cannot miss touchdowns and settle for field goals (i.e. last year's playoff game when shepard had dropped TD pass on a good first drive)

We must control the clock as well. We must duplicate what redskins did to us and have long sustained drives to keep their explosive offense off the field and out of sink

And then the usual get after Bree's and mix up our coverages and blitzes to keep them guessing. We have to keep the pressure on and not let up. 

coudlve sworn that was Kaelin Clay who dropped the TD that would have put us up early in that game

We probably win that one with our current WR core instead of the poo we trotted out on the field last year. 

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Beating the Bucs does not make our defense better than the Rams.

That #1 ranking was always a paper tiger.

What? 

I wasn't claiming that the Bucs game was the reason for my claim. I believe that the Panthers defense is more than adequate for beating the Saints, considering we have been matching up with Payton now for 10 years while Norv is new to the division with these players. Might I be disappointed? Yes. However this is 2015 reincarnated. 

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1 minute ago, CPcavedweller said:

What? 

I wasn't claiming that the Bucs game was the reason for my claim. I believe that the Panthers defense is more than adequate for beating the Saints, considering we have been matching up with Payton now for 10 years while Norv is new to the division with these players. Might I be disappointed? Yes. However this is 2015 reincarnated. 

Payton has owned our defense for a while now. He knows how to beat Rivera's system.

When we did beat them, we did so in shootouts, not defensive struggles. If we beat them this year, it'll probably be the same way.

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All I know is that we will give them absolute hell on Monday night at our place after getting swept 3-0 last year. Probably not going to be anything like the games last year, players and fans will be juiced up to the maximum and we'll punch them in the mouth 

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Payton has owned our defense for a while now. He knows how to beat Rivera's system.

When we did beat them, we did so in shootouts, not defensive struggles. If we beat them this year, it'll probably be the same way.

No one beats the Saints in defensive struggles.  They have "owned" every defense since the beginning of last year.  Have you been watching?

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