Argue Rivera's case

[JARROD]

Because he brought a record to Carolina,...

the first team since the schedule went to 16 games in 1978 to start 6-2 and then lose 7 in a row,.

basically the record for the biggest midseason collapse since there’s been 16 games

see,.. he’s bringing records that even Seifart can’t equal,..

[cptx]

Success is not a 5-12 divisional record since an embarrassing super bowl poo show.

Success is not running a generational talent into the ground to save your ass over and over, potentially shortening his career.

Success is not hiring your friendos to be DC for a NFL team just because you think they are swell folks.

Success is not forgetting how to count backwards to know when the hell to use a time out.

Success is not letting ancient and mediocre players start just because you think they are also swell folks.

 

 

[Cuttinedge]

It’s  probably already been said.  But he does have a ample chest is the only thing I can thing of 

[KillerKat]

2 minutes ago, cptx said:

Success is not a 5-12 divisional record since an embarrassing super bowl poo show.

Success is not running a generational talent into the ground to save your ass over and over, potentially shortening his career.

Success is not hiring your friendos to be DC for a NFL team just because you think they are swell folks.

Success is not forgetting how to count backwards to know when the hell to use a time out.

Success is not letting ancient and mediocre players start just because you think they are also swell folks.

 

 

Sorry, but I tried

[Mr. Scot]

This bit from Jourdan Rodrigue's recent Observer article is relevant here...

“In 1993, they passed a whole new (collective bargaining agreement),” he said. “There were a group of us who were caught up in the middle of it. That was the first time there was a salary cap. ... It was the changing point in the NFL at the time. For what they were paying me, they could have signed three rookies, (which is) the nature of the game, now.”

So a player getting to end his career on his own terms, well, that’s something that really matters to Rivera.

“It’s a big deal for me,” he said this week. “And one of the things I talk about with guys is not wasting opportunities, more so than anything else. I think that it’s really important that guys understand that you only get so many chances at playing this game. And while you’re playing it, you gotta give it everything you have.”

The desire to give everybody a graceful exit could be at least a small part of the reason why Rivera, over the years, has been well-regarded as a “player’s coach” and has, mostly successfully, kept a locker room full of able-bodied, respected veteran players.

And Rivera said he wishes he could keep all of them around.

[cptx]

Rivera wants to run a Hospice for terminally shitty old players. See Adams:Mike

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Forget whether or not he will be retained. None of us knows that.

If you've got an argument, convince me why Ron Rivera should remain head coach of this team.

In the time he has been here, what is the teams W-L record and how does that compare to all the other teams.  My guess is its a lot better than most teams.

The other side of the argument is we have no consistency from one year to the next.

 

 

[Kevin Greene]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This bit from Jourdan Rodrigue's recent Observer article is relevant here...

“In 1993, they passed a whole new (collective bargaining agreement),” he said. “There were a group of us who were caught up in the middle of it. That was the first time there was a salary cap. ... It was the changing point in the NFL at the time. For what they were paying me, they could have signed three rookies, (which is) the nature of the game, now.”

So a player getting to end his career on his own terms, well, that’s something that really matters to Rivera.

“It’s a big deal for me,” he said this week. “And one of the things I talk about with guys is not wasting opportunities, more so than anything else. I think that it’s really important that guys understand that you only get so many chances at playing this game. And while you’re playing it, you gotta give it everything you have.”

The desire to give everybody a graceful exit could be at least a small part of the reason why Rivera, over the years, has been well-regarded as a “player’s coach” and has, mostly successfully, kept a locker room full of able-bodied, respected veteran players.

And Rivera said he wishes he could keep all of them around.

Welp, Belichick would never prescribe to that theory and shows that being realistic, albeit a dick at times is the best way to remain relevant in this game. 

Sadly Hurney has shown the exact same tendency as the philosophy suggested above and is a major failing. Rivera is in fact Hurneys' perfect peri. 

And further proof why, Tepper must start with Hurneys' termination and let the dominos follow.

[Cuttinedge]

16 minutes ago, Kevin Greene said:

Riveras' game awareness and clock management is pathetic since Day 1 and has not improved.

Riveras' initial hire at DC was excellent and I argued should actually have been the HC but since then his DC and other position hires have been in the buddy network much to this teams detriment.

He continually starts players at positions that are well past their prime or there is a better player behind that position who should in fact be on the field. 

Riveras' entire philosophy does not fit in today's NFL nor does it take advantage of the current NFL regulations as put forth by the League office. 

Assessing your roster, and putting those players in the best position to win does not occur with Rivera in charge.

There is no end game where retaining Rivera benefits the Panther organization. Monday next, the head Coach search must commence.

In all fairness he didn’t want McDermott for his DC. If I remember right he wanted Wilks to begin with but Chargers wouldn’t allow us to interview him. 

So In actuality his best hire wasn’t what he wanted   Ron gonna Ron 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Cuttinedge said:

In all fairness he didn’t want McDermott for his DC. If I remember right he wanted Wilks to begin with but Chargers wouldn’t allow us to interview him. 

So In actuality his best hire wasn’t what he wanted   Ron gonna Ron 

Well, a lot of Rivera's best decisions have been made for him, so...

[Kevin Greene]

1 minute ago, Cuttinedge said:

In all fairness he didn’t want McDermott for his DC. If I remember right he wanted Wilks to begin with but Chargers wouldn’t allow us to interview him. 

So In actuality his best hire wasn’t what he wanted   Ron gonna Ron 

Touche!

[Malt Liquor]

A young blind Ray Charles could see that Ron Rivera is not a championship caliber head coach.

[Mr. Scot]

Longer list:

Things Rivera learned too late

or

Good decisions Rivera had made for him

[Chaos]