2019 cap space and possible cuts

[Ja Rhule]

We currently projected to have around $25M of cap space with 2019 projected increase

The top 12 earners:

Cam Newton $24M or 13% of cap

Luke Kueckly $17M or 9% of cap

KK Short $17M or 9% of cap

Matt Kalil $12.5 or 6.5% of cap

Mario Addison $10M or 5% of cap

Poe $9.3M or 5% of cap

Shaq Thompson $9M or 5% of cap

Trai Turner $8.8M of 4.6% of space

Greg Olsen $7M or 4% of cap space

Torrey Smith $5M or 3% of cap space

Captain $5M or 3% of cap space

 

Players likely to be released:

Mario Addison 32 years old next year. $7.4M in savings.

Torrey Smith $5M in savings

Searcy $3M in savings

Captan $2M in savings

Crockell $2.4M in savings

We will have around $45-$50M in March to work with.

The way contracts are structured... no one else from top 12 earners can get cut due to dead money for exception of Shaq Thompson and Cam Newton.  If we release Thompson (doubt) and trade/release Cam (highly doubt it). We can have $75-$80M in cap space.  If Tepper wants to go in all out rebuilding mode, that certainly can be an option.

Matt Kalil, Poe, Olsen are all unreleasable in 2019 due to dead money their contracts carrying but all releasable after 2019. 

[ncfan]

Only way I see Addison being cut unless a superatar is linedup

Right now

 

Only Addison and Haynes are signed next year.  And Haynes wasnt even active more than 2-3 games this year

[Ja Rhule]

8 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Only way I see Addison being cut unless a superatar is linedup

Right now

 

Only Addison and Haynes are signed next year.  And Haynes wasnt even active more than 2-3 games this year

After Pittsburg game, Addison got only 0.5 sack and was unable to put any pressure on opposing QBs.  I think Addison has hit the wall...  he’s a smalish DE who relies on speed to get around tackles... unfortunately speed is one of the first things to go when you hit 30.  Panthers want to get younger and faster...  

[Adb6368]

Can someone please give me some clarity on what happens if Greg Olsen retires NOT because of injury. I’ve read several conflicting things and believe he will easily be healthy and will seriously consider taking a broadcaster role 

[Cpt slay a ho]

Good thing is we only have to resign two of our big name guys , Williams and Shaq, after that guys like Reid etc should be brought back 

[Ja Rhule]

18 minutes ago, Adb6368 said:

Can someone please give me some clarity on what happens if Greg Olsen retires NOT because of injury. I’ve read several conflicting things and believe he will easily be healthy and will seriously consider taking a broadcaster role 

We are getting all cap space back and he will require to pay us back all of signing bonus.... $11M to be exact.  Hurney, the genius...  basically gave him 2 years extension and 60% of it was signing bonus with one check.  Olsen contract goes into effect in March.  I doubt he will give back $11M check back to Panthers.  The Panthers will cut Olsen next season... he will keep extra $4M and go to broadcasting.  This year it makes zero sense for both parties to separate.  Hurney is being Hurney... giving crazy money to aging player because he’s a friend. 

[Trill OG]

That cap room means nothing in a weak FA class. The only big name I have heard floated around for us is J. Clowney. Even he is a gamble.

 

Who else noteworthy is available that would have an impact for us?

[Adb6368]

4 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

We are getting all cap space back and he will require to pay us back all of signing bonus.... $11M to be exact.  Hurney, the genius...  basically gave him 2 years extension and 60% of it was signing bonus with one check.  Olsen contract goes into effect in March.  I doubt he will give back $11M check back to Panthers.  The Panthers will cut Olsen next season... he will keep extra $4M and go to broadcasting.  This year it makes zero reason for both parties to separate.

Appreciate the facts. But you honestly don’t think he’d leave for a broadcasting job? He’s made plenty of money and it’s not like he’d be paid chump change in a broadcasting job. I think this is extremely likely. Why would he want to go through all the rehab needed of a broken foot for just one more year when several of his ‘peers’ are retiring. 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

6 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

We are getting all cap space back and he will require to pay us back all of signing bonus.... $11M to be exact.  Hurney, the genius...  basically gave him 2 years extension and 60% of it was signing bonus with one check.  Olsen contract goes into effect in March.  I doubt he will give back $11M check back to Panthers.

 

2 minutes ago, Adb6368 said:

Appreciate the facts. Why would he want to go through all the rehab needed of a broken foot for just one more year when several of his ‘peers’ are retiring. 

$11,000,000 

[Trill OG]

15 minutes ago, Adb6368 said:

Appreciate the facts. But you honestly don’t think he’d leave for a broadcasting job? He’s made plenty of money and it’s not like he’d be paid chump change in a broadcasting job. I think this is extremely likely. Why would he want to go through all the rehab needed of a broken foot for just one more year when several of his ‘peers’ are retiring. 

I kind of hope he retires. He hasn't been the same since the foot injury. At this point Ian Thomas is a better option on the field. His speed and ability to break tackles is far much better than Olsen right now.

[Adb6368]

25 minutes ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

 

$11,000,000 

Great job editing that post to make your point... I explained exactly why the money wouldn’t matter in my post. But what does context matter these days anyways ?

[ncfan]

52 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

After Pittsburg game, Addison got only 0.5 sack and was unable to put any pressure on opposing QBs.  I think Addison has hit the wall...  he’s a smalish DE who relies on speed to get around tackles... unfortunately speed is one of the first things to go when you hit 30.  Panthers want to get younger and faster...  

I get that

But with him gone, we only have a undersized Marquis Haynes under contract. who could barely get activated this year under this terrible group.

And probably another kid from this upcoming draft.

[Shocker]

33 minutes ago, Trill OG said:

That cap room means nothing in a weak FA class. The only big name I have heard floated around for us is J. Clowney. Even he is a gamble.

 

Who else noteworthy is available that would have an impact for us?

Although not probable it is possible the Redskins release Norman.  He would have to come down off a 14 mill cap hit for me to want him but the Skins may move on...found this:

They could elect to release him. They would incur a dead cap charge of $6 million but save a net of $8.5 million in cap space. If they want to spread out the dead cap charge they could designate him as a post-June 1 cut and create $11.5 million in additional 2019 cap space while pushing $3 million of dead cap to 2020. 

[Trill OG]

5 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Although not probable it is possible the Redskins release Norman.  He would have to come down off a 14 mill cap hit for me to want him but the Skins may move on...found this:

They could elect to release him. They would incur a dead cap charge of $6 million but save a net of $8.5 million in cap space. If they want to spread out the dead cap charge they could designate him as a post-June 1 cut and create $11.5 million in additional 2019 cap space while pushing $3 million of dead cap to 2020. 

Josh Norman is not something I would categorize as a big signing. Im talking who are the big names on the FA market this year?