I know everyone is mad.....

[CRA]

Hell I am too, but the REAL REASON we lost this game is NOT JAKE DELHOMME.

Not that I am taking up for his retarded play, and inability to be who he once was, but this loss is not his fault.

This loss is on 2 people; JEFF DAVIDSON & JOHN FOX

There is no damn reason you throw 45 times against the leagues WORST RUN DEFENSE.

DeAngelo Williams averaged 5.5 ypc

We lost this game because OF PISS POOR PLAY CALLING.

the 45 is misleading.....look at how much Matt Cassell threw it last year? Cassell sucked so they created a bunch of quick throws that were an extension of the run game. Those throws the the RBs yesterday where the 1st option and not check downs.....I haven't even looked at the numbers but I certain that was a record under Davidson for passes to the RBs in a game.

[Cape Fear Cat]

I agree with you , AK, as far as it goes. But I was there, and Jake just made poor decisions, still looking to Smitty like he's the only guy with hands on the team (even though, come to think of it, he might be). Plenty of this should be on the heads of Fox and Davidson, but a heaping portion of blame should also land on Jake's plate. I hate saying it, man, because I love Jake and what he's meant to this team. But now he's a liability.

[Guild]

the 45 is misleading.....look at how much Matt Cassell threw it last year? Cassell sucked so they created a bunch of quick throws that were an extension of the run game. Those throws the the RBs yesterday where the 1st option and not check downs.....I haven't even looked at the numbers but I certain that was a record under Davidson for passes to the RBs in a game.

Davidson gets all his playcalling advice from the Huddle. Don't believe me? Just read the threads after each week and look at what plays Davidson calls the following game.

[KatsAzz]

Hell I am too, but the REAL REASON we lost this game is NOT JAKE DELHOMME.

Not that I am taking up for his retarded play, and inability to be who he once was, but this loss is not his fault.

This loss is on 2 people; JEFF DAVIDSON & JOHN FOX

There is no damn reason you throw 45 times against the leagues WORST RUN DEFENSE.

DeAngelo Williams averaged 5.5 ypc

We lost this game because OF PISS POOR PLAY CALLING.

Were we watching the same game??? Granted the play calling could have been better but Jake(the Joke) Delhomme lost this game,pure and simple.

He is a turnover machine and the main reason the Panthers are presently one

of the worst teams in the entire NFL.

[grateflday]

Nothing wrong with the playcalling, on Jake's 2 INTs a good pass that was actually on target would have resulted in a 20+ yard gain. But Jake, as usual, threw the ball too high and long to an open receiver down the middle of the field and the result was two picks which set up the Buffalo offense inside the redzone.

Exactely... enough of the its everybody else's fault. Jake has been overthrowing , underthrowing, throwing behind receivers all year. Those two picks, he did have two wide open guys and just overthrew them both.

Its not the playcalling, its not the defense right now, its nothing other than the fact the Panthers have a HORRIBLE QB.

[Zaximus]

35% Jake Delhomme

40% Bad coaching

25% Horrible Special Teams

That's why we lost.

[Guild]

35% Jake Delhomme

40% Bad coaching

25% Horrible Special Teams

That's why we lost.

100% Davidson

100% Jake Delhomme

50% Special Teams

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250% Fail.

[PntherPryd]

I was all about running the ball down their throats but I knew we were going to throw the ball on them because this has come up before. Davidson/Fox think they are outsmarting the competition by passing when they expect us to run.

That is their idea of game-planning. Look at the play-by-play and you can see the pass game was a big part of our preparation. And I really don't have a problem with that, you can't go into a matchup one dimensional.

But it is the little things killing us just as much as the big; Rosario running a 6 yard route on 3rd and 8, half-ass blocking on punt returns, getting plays in late and you can go on and on.

When you out-gain a team 425-167 with 20 first downs to their 9 and you find a way to lose convincingly their is a laundry list of people and things to blame. It's not just Jake and it's not just Fox/Davidson. They lost as a team and an organization in a game they knew they had to win and in a game they should have won and they did it at home. Pathetic all around.

[RazzleDazzle]

It's Delhommes fault, sorry. Teams try to make us throw because of him. At this point, Nick Hayden would be a better QB.

[PuntJake]

I just dont understand how you gameplan all week and say; "hey were playing the last ranked rush defense, not to mention they had 5 ints last Sunday, lets throw the ball 45 times and hope we win"

Dumbass's

yep. game planning and even the announcers were ripping on jeff's play calling.

it all boils down to this. who's hands do you want the ball in? jake's, or the RB's??? then design a game plan around that and stick to it! even if we're down 10 or 12 points. our RB's can move the ball and score a couple of TD's. and, the reason we're down 10 or 12 points is jake and special teams!!!

int's, fumbles, and missed field goals.....

[MadHatter]

Jake must be benched.....Fox must be fired.

I have supported both during their tenure here, and thank them for what they have done fo rthis franchise.

However, Jake's play and Fox's continuous refusal to accept the invevitable has made them both dead in my eyes.

Great game by the defense. They have played their asses off the past few games.

If I were a member of the Panthers defense and Fox continued to send Jake out.....I would go Tanya Harding on his ass in the locker room.

Fox might not take him out of the game, but I sure would.

[prowler2k8]

I don't know what game you were watching AK. They were scared to death to let Jake throw the ball deep. The vast majority of his pass attempts were under 10 yards to tight ends and running backs. It was almost like a WCO-style of playcalling tonight. A lot of Jake's passes were glorified running plays by their design.

I actually thought the PLAYCALLING on offense was good and could've been effective. Those short passes helped us to control the clock. Even the deep routes to Barnidge and Smith were good calls. The problem was the EXECUTION. It's clear that we can't rely on Jake to throw the deep ball. If your QB misses wide open targets on the few deep routes called (though the 48-yarder to Smith was a thing of beauty) then you're in trouble.

[mountainpantherfan]

I had no problem with the gameplan or the play calling. I thought both were right on and anyone saying anything differently better not have commented in the "How would you fix it?" thread because the general consensus was exactly what Davidson/Fox did.

The problem was Delhomme and a lack of execution by several players throughout the game. Kasay and K. Moore didn't help matters either. But I have no doubt that the Bills would have only scored 3 points the entire game if it weren't for the turnovers. It might not have been pretty but the Panthers would have won 9-3.

[koolkatluke]

I had no problem with the gameplan or the play calling. I thought both were right on and anyone saying anything differently better not have commented in the "How would you fix it?" thread because the general consensus was exactly what Davidson/Fox did.

The problem was Delhomme and a lack of execution by several players throughout the game. Kasay and K. Moore didn't help matters either. But I have no doubt that the Bills would have only scored 3 points the entire game if it weren't for the turnovers. It might not have been pretty but the Panthers would have won 9-3.

I agree with MPF i had no problem with the gameplan. We had 426 yards if Jake would have executed the plays like they were drawn up we would have crushed them. Now everybody see how 1 position can make others look bad.