I don't think we can bench Kyle Allen...

[Jaxel]

Allen  has played 5 games, won them all, and three of them have been stellar performances. How anyone can claim they know his ceiling is beyond me. The dude can read the field, throw the ball accurately, keep his cool, and make the big play. 

Sometimes a player no one knows can turn into something, it happens. Luckily it's happening to us, whether Cam comes back healthy and shows he can still play, whether Allen wins the job outright, or even if Allen nets us a great draft pick; enjoy the ride fellows. These kind of things don't happen often.

[bandu]

5 minutes ago, WoahW said:

Healthy Newton plays and he either is Newton of old and we have a shot at the SB or he won’t ever be the same and it gets to the point we see Allen is the better option.

 

Above is what needs to happen 1000%

Kyle Allens ability to protect the football by not throwing interceptions or fumbling the ball is the blueprint for reaching the Superbowl...not athletic talent

now this is what you call 100%

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

What’s truly winning games for Allen right now is also the same element that was losing them for Cam and Carolina in the second half of 2018. The defense had one of the worst pass rushes in the league last year (No. 27 in sacks), whereas this year it’s one of the best (No. 8). The secondary has also made a dramatic turnaround. Instead of giving up massive plays every week, the DBs are locking down even star wide receivers and creating turnovers. The Panthers have already posted nine interceptions this season, whereas they had 13 all of last year.

you had newton get destroyed the first drive of the first preseason game behind an experimental right tackle at left.. since allen has been under center you have moved him back to the right side with two backup left tackles who have all proven to be better at left than right.. last we saw healthy newton beginning of 2018 he was doing better than 15..

Basically everybody is good except Kyle Allen. Got it 

[micnificent28]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Basically everybody is good except Kyle Allen. Got it 

That isn't what I said your clearly pushing an agenda.. so have at it..

[raz]

'he hasn't had to come from behind' is one of the most 'i'm almost self aware' statements i've ever heard.  you're close bros, you'll understand more about why we're not behind shortly

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

That isn't what I said your clearly pushing an agenda.. so have at it..

Me pushing an agenda... Riiiight 

Here's my actual agenda.

Whoever gives us the best chance to win games should be starting. I don't care who they are, where they go, what they look like or much of anything else about them aside from their football skills.

Win games. That is all.

[micnificent28]

Let’s be 100 percent clear on something: Assuming Newton is healthy — really healthy, not the Ron Rivera “he can go”-type healthy that’s been used when he’s obviously hurt — then there should be no deliberation. If the Panthers really have a “tough decision” deciding if Newton is better than Allen, the entire front office should lose their jobs for gross incompetence alone.

[micnificent28]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Me pushing an agenda... Riiiight 

Here's my actual agenda.

Whoever gives us the best chance to win games should be starting. I don't care who they are, where they go, what they look like or much of anything else about them aside from their football skills.

Win games. That is 

Double post.

[Jaxel]

Yesterday didn't look like conservative ball. Most of his throws were pretty far down the field... and quite a few were dropped.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

You Cape in every post pushing the Allen is superior to Newton button but it's a lie.. he says a very conservative safe game and that's your cup of tea. That's fine for the games the rest of the team can win for him. but ball for ball he isn't better than Newton and conservative ball wont beat the mistake free teams like the chiefs or the Patriots. ALLEN is fools gold. Hes a driver that wont make mistake but dont look for him to create wins..

Based on your interpretations, I'm pretty sure you haven't read even half my recent posts 

[bandu]

19 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

You Cape in every post pushing the Allen is superior to Newton button but it's a lie.. he says a very conservative safe game and that's your cup of tea. That's fine for the games the rest of the team can win for him. but ball for ball he isn't better than Newton and conservative ball wont beat the mistake free teams like the chiefs or the Patriots. ALLEN is fools gold. Hes a driver that wont make mistake but dont look for him to create wins..

so how do you beat a mistake free football team?

I'm going out on a limb here by saying...

playing mistake free football yourself is the correct answer?

[micnificent28]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Me pushing an agenda... Riiiight 

Here's my actual agenda.

Whoever gives us the best chance to win games should be starting. I don't care who they are, where they go, what they look like or much of anything else about them aside from their football skills.

Win games. That is all.

You Cape in every post pushing the Allen is superior to Newton button but it's a lie.. he plays a very conservative safe game and that's your cup of tea. That's fine for the games the rest of the team can win for him. but ball for ball he isn't better than Newton and conservative ball wont beat the mistake free teams like the chiefs or the Patriots. ALLEN is fools gold. Hes a driver that wont make mistake but dont look for him to create wins..

Alex Smith would probably still be the Cheifs qb if completion percentages were all that mattered and mistake free football is better than a guy that can create right...

[Jaxel]

Lol, the Chiefs and Patriots have looked anything but mistake free. Have you even watched their last 3 games? Chiefs have at least played good teams, so they may get a pass, but the Patriots offense is not playing what I would call "mistake free football".

[micnificent28]

6 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

Lol, the Chiefs and Patriots have looked anything but mistake free. Have you even watched their last 3 games? Chiefs have at least played good teams, so they may get a pass, but the Patriots offense is not playing what I would call "mistake free football".

There are always outliners.. but as far as consistency goes Mahomes is more likely to not throw a int than he is since he only has one. Same for brady.. this short sighted thinking is part of why people seem to think "hey allen is winning with the same team cam had he must be better right".