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The roughing call...


Mr. Scot

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Yeah, watched it again on your link. Still one of the single worst calls I've ever seen. I'm not sure what it is the officials want defensive players to do in order to tackle or sack a qb properly. The absurdity of the standard expected is out of hand, and I'm a guy who's all in favor of making football safer and understands that qb's are the stars that an entertainment business has to market, but c'mon, this is absurd, and I'm not just talking about this play either. 

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2 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Boger called a phantom offsides at the end of the game to try and make up for it 

If it's the one I'm thinking of, Van Roten flinched and drew him off.

I've been pondering whether or not that might have been deliberate. Don't think so, but it's possible.

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16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

... has not gone unnoticed by the media.

McCoy gets revenge after phantom roughing call

If you do a quick search, you'll find several other stories like this one. It's definitely gotten noticed.

Wouldn't surprise me if it became the topic of a fair amount of sports talk conversation this week, and not just in Charlotte.

I want to know why it wasn’t intentional grounding?

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1 minute ago, philit99 said:

I want to know why it wasn’t intentional grounding?

We didn't get called for grounding on a play where we probably should have as well.

Stuff like that is why I don't take the "it was rigged" conversation seriously. It's not rigged. Some referees are just terrible.

Boger is most definitely one of them.

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3 minutes ago, Nesbro1 said:

The whole not driving them into the ground or using all of your weight rule is pussy ass bullchit.

You should be able to stick them in the torso and crush them.

You and I don't see eye to eye on how much violence should be allowed or expected in football, but we're in agreement on this albeit with different reasoning. I'm not in favor of players crushing each other, but even if the goal is making things safer, that has to be done with some level of realistic expectations. At this point pass rushers are just taking their chances on being called for a penalty if they make contact with the qb no matter what they do. It's an absurd standard.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

We didn't get called for grounding on a play where we probably should have as well.

Stuff like that is why I don't take the "it was rigged" conversation seriously. It's not rigged. Some referees are just terrible.

Boger is most definitely one of them.

Except this crap always happens with the league’s darling teams like the Packers, Pats, Cowboys. It’s a trend with refs favoring them, not just your usual refs sucking.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

We didn't get called for grounding on a play where we probably should have as well.

Stuff like that is why I don't take the "it was rigged" conversation seriously. It's not rigged. Some referees are just terrible.

Boger is most definitely one of them.

Yeah as mad as I am, I don't much subscribe to rigged theories, just hate horrible officiating.

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1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

You and I don't see eye to eye on how much violence should be allowed or expected in football, but we're in agreement on this albeit with different reasoning. I'm not in favor of players crushing each other, but even if the goal is making things safer, that has to be done with some level of realistic expectations. At this point pass rushers are just taking their chances on being called for a penalty if they make contact with the qb no matter what they do. It's an absurd standard.

Rules that require a player to basically defy gravity in order to keep from getting penalized are kind of ridiculous.

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2 minutes ago, t96 said:

Except this crap always happens with the league’s darling teams like the Packers, Pats, Cowboys. It’s a trend with refs favoring them, not just your usual refs sucking.

I've seen us benefit from bad calls too.

Ultimately, we just really need better officiating.

However, with the league just recently extending their CBA with the officials union, I'm not exactly holding my breath.

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8 minutes ago, philit99 said:

I want to know why it wasn’t intentional grounding?

Yeah, ball was yards short of the LOS and the closest Packer; obviously thrown in the dirt to avoid the sack+safety.  But anyways the answer is Boger is a terrible referee.  Only way people can ever defend him is that he makes equally appalling calls against both teams (i.e. he is bad at his job)

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