Hurney should stay on with the Panthers...

[firefox1234]

No denying he hits inthe most important round but sadly for him a GMs duty encompasses more than that.

[BurnHurnBurn]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

2010: Everette Brown

Took me a minute to figure out what you did there with Otah and Brown representing the 1st round picks we didn't have b/c of the trades.  Fair enough, carry on.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, BurnHurnBurn said:

Took me a minute to figure out what you did there with Otah and Brown representing the 1st round picks we didn't have b/c of the trades.  Fair enough, carry on.

It was a little tongue in cheek.

[Car123]

31 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

2019: Brian Burns

2018: DJ Moore

2012: Luke Keuchly

2011: Cam Newton

2010: Everette Brown

2009: Jeff Otah

2008: Jonathan Stewart, Jeff Otah

2007: Jon Beason

2006: DeAngelo Williams

2005: Thomas Davis

2004: Chris Gamble

2003: Jordan Gross

2002: Julius Peppers

 

I must say, even with the obvious flubs in 2008-2010, that is pretty impressive. 

Everette Brown wasn't a first round pick.

[jfra78]

32 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Are we certain he can still do this if he's not around to ensure that we have a sh-tty record so we're picking in the top half of the round?

So what exactly did Hurney do to ensure our sh-tty record this year?

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Car123 said:

Everette Brown wasn't a first round pick.

Yeah, that's a little bit of a shot at Hurney, as was the double listing of Otah. Traded first round picks to get both of them.

[Mage]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that's a little bit of a shot at Hurney, as was the double listing of Otah. Traded first round picks to get both of them.

Eh Otah was a very good to great player, his rookie season was dominant.  Just couldn’t stay healthy.  

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

So what exactly did Hurney do to ensure our sh-tty record this year?

Will the start with, let's talk about 2 guys named Matt Paradis and Darryl Williams...

[Car123]

3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

So what exactly did Hurney do to ensure our sh-tty record this year?

Scot will say he should have signed Josh McCown (a qb who had 1 td 4 ints 54% completion pct in 2018)

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

Eh Otah was a very good to great player, his rookie season was dominant.  Just couldn’t stay healthy.  

 

 

Agreed. Still ultimately a bust, however. 

[jfra78]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Will the start with, let's talk about 2 guys named Matt Paradis and Darryl Williams...

At the time of both signings they looked solid

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, jfra78 said:

At the time of both signings they looked solid

At the time of Armanti Edwards drafting, that looked good too.

Nobody judges results by whether they seemed like a good idea at the time. About 99% of the time, they do. That they seem to be but then turn out not to be is what makes a bust.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

At the time of both signings they looked solid

This is true. Widely regarded as good signings across the spectrum of sports media, as well. 

I won't lie, I will admit that I have thought that perhaps our OL struggles have an element of coaching that has failed. It's strange that so many on the line that had previously been solid are suddenly looking like garbage. 

[Car123]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

This is true. Widely regarded as good signings across the spectrum of sports media, as well. 

I won't lie, I will admit that I have thought that perhaps our OL struggles have an element of coaching that has failed. It's strange that so many on the line that had previously been solid are suddenly looking like garbage. 

Matsko must go or else 2020 will be a repeat of 2019.