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2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Even if you move him where do you go from there?

You've got over a hundred milllion tied up in linebackers on a bottom defense.

Who is going to be the QB? Dont say Kyle Allen.

Yeah... I can't believe we put so much into that position. This franchise can't get out of its own way 

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5 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Even if you move him where do you go from there?

You've got over a hundred milllion tied up in linebackers on a bottom defense.

Who is going to be the QB? Don't say Kyle Allen.

We do what the people who are just so, so angry that Cam isn't winning games by himself want and go 0-16 for Trevor Lawrence

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12 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Even if you move him where do you go from there?

You've got over a hundred milllion tied up in linebackers on a bottom defense.

Who is going to be the QB? Don't say Kyle Allen.

Two years left on Luke’s contract. So it’s not really 100 million. But this raises the question if Luke is gonna be given another contract. Next year is when we would start talks about an extension. I know people don’t wanna hear this but we might not extend Luke or he might retire or we might try to trade him. I agree that if we extend Luke that is way too much money to give linebackers.

i really am thinking this might be a total rebuild and we move on from Cam and Luke within these next two year which really sucks and is sad we squandered their talents.

but based on Tepper talking about looking at this from a future perspective it might take 4 or 5 years. That doesn’t seem to include Cam or Luke based on their ages.

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4 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Two years left on Luke’s contract. So it’s not really 100 million. But this raises the question if Luke is gonna be given another contract. Next year is when we would start talks about an extension. I know people don’t wanna hear this but we might not extend Luke or he might retire or we might try to trade him. I agree that if we extend Luke that is way too much money to give linebackers.

i really am thinking this might be a total rebuild and we move on from Cam and Luke within these next two year which really sucks and is sad we squandered their talents.

He will be 30 in the final year of his contract. I fear 2020 may be it for Luke as a Carolina Panther. Sucks but that's the nature of the NFL. There are few fairy tale endings.

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Sounds like an opinion piece. 
 

however on one hand, based on Teppers comments about letting RR go early So everyone knows the Panthers are in the hunt for a HC gives transparency to the NFL. This at least ensures we don’t miss out on interviewing anyone. In Cams situation, it gives all teams interested in Cams services enough time to put together a package to trade for him. 
 

on the other hand, if you weren’t planning to trade Cam, how is he supposed to react going into the season in a contract year?  *spoiler* he would hold out. 

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