For those who cannot understand how/why Hurndog is still the GM --- this is the answer.

[1of10Charnatives]

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

Mike Sorrentino is a self-made millionaire, therefore according to OP he could run an NFL franchise and speak mandarin far better than you or I. 

Everyone speaks mandarin better than me. I once had a roommate who spoke it fluently and wouldn’t shut up about China. I’m now morally opposed to learning mandarin.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

30 minutes ago, SBiii said:

Never said it did.

That said, going from $0 to $11bn all on your own is a meaningful indicator of superior intellect.

Tepper posseses intellectual horsepower far superior to me, you, and everyone else who has ever posted on this site.

I have no problem acknowledging this...

...others, they appear to be holding onto a pipe dream.

Tepper is not smarter than huddle posters.  
We know what’s best.  

[RumHam]

What was hurneys excuse for last offseason? STOP DEFENDING HIM 

[uncfan888]

22 minutes ago, SBiii said:

Let me guess, your argument against my logic is...

..."I'm Everfrost and I'm smarter than David Tepper"...

...that about sum it up?

 

 

Nah.. I'm uncfan888 and I'm smarter than you

[panthers55]

44 minutes ago, 332nd said:

Billionaire does not mean you are smarter than everyone else.

 

Self make billionaires usually are smart and lucky. Guys who inherit it from Daddy, could be smart or stupid and corrupt.  

[panthers55]

4 minutes ago, RumHam said:

What was hurneys excuse for last offseason? STOP DEFENDING HIM 

The problem wasn't talent so much as winning together and playing like a team. This team way underachieved. 

[Matt62881]

1 hour ago, SBiii said:

  9 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Tepper knows what he is doing and has a plan. It seems the people who are the most negative here have an agenda that colors every statement with little objectivity or logic.

Exactly.

Here's the logic they are missing --- none of us really know Hurndog's true capabilities as a GM.

How is it we don't know Hurndog's true capabilities? 

Because The Big Cat never let Marty do the job without interfering.

Marty:  "Jerry, this is how I think we should proceed/draft/trade/offer  contract, etc..."

Jerry:  "That's nice Marty, here's what we're going to do [pick your blunder], now go do it."

Here's the objectivity they are missing --- Marty must be a LOT more capable of executing the GM responsibilities than any of us (myself included) ever thought.

How do we know this to be true?

Because 17 months after taking control of the team Mr. David Tepper still employs the Hurndog.

It really is that simple.

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Tepper officially took over the Panthers on July 9, 2018.  The team was 2-weeks away from opening camp and the timing dictated the Panthers roll into camp and the 2018 season pretty much as constructed on both the player & executive fronts.

At that point in time I believed Hurney would babysit the GM position through the 2018 season and then be gone as soon as the clock ticked 0:00 in game-16. 

Rowboat had just signed a ridiculous contract extension The Big Cat gifted him on the way out the door and I figured that combined with his track record as 2-time NFLCOY, etc...would spur Tepper to let the Rower continue into 2019 no matter how 2018 went.

To my surprise (and I must admit, chagrin) both were retained going into 2019.

I started to think about....why?  There must be a logical explanation?  Mr. David Tepper specializes in logical decisions, good ones.

There are 2 primary reasons Mr. David Tepper is now worth $11B++...

1.  Superior information.

2.  Superior intellect and decision making ability.

A deadly combination that is...

In evaluating this Hurndog scenario there are 2 certainties:

1.  Tepper's information is far superior to ours.

2.  Tepper is way smarter than us and a much more capable decision maker.

So, how is it that Hurndog remains in Big Tepp's employ?

There's only one-single explanation...

...Big Tepp sat Hurndog down and said "walk me through your decision making process" on hundreds if not thousands of football related decisions going all the way back to his first NFL related job as the Redskins PR guy 30 years ago...

...AND...

...Big Tepp liked what he heard.

People, DON'T FORGET....Hurndog was never given the leeway to make the calls as he saw fit --- The Big Cat was micromanaging to the Nth degree.  I'm sure this was exposed in the hours and hours and hours of conversation Tepper had with Hurndog.

It was the same with Gettleman --- look no further than Brenton Bersin for a graphic example of The Big Cat telling the GM how he was going to proceed.

There-in lay the logical & objective explanation for how and why Hurndog still has the job.

Will be interested to see how the "I'm smarter than Tepper" crowd reacts....LOL.

Most negativity here is backed by no logic or information and I'm coming to find it's a large part of this board, it's sad. Tepper is better at this then we are...period. I dont see us stripping down and rebuilding because we have too many pieces if the correct coaching is employed. Alot of teams that have alot less talent aren't talking a rebuild, most dont have a combo of Luke, Burns, Short, Bradberry and CMC, Cam, DJ, and Curtis, along with Olsen if he stays.

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, Matt62881 said:

Most negativity here is backed by no logic or information and I'm coming to find it's a large part of this board, it's sad. Tepper is better at this then we are...period. I dont see us stripping down and rebuilding because we have too many pieces if the correct coaching is employed. Alot of teams that have alot less talent aren't talking a rebuild, most dont have a combo of Luke, Burns, Short, Bradberry and CMC, Cam, DJ, and Curtis, along with Olsen if he stays.

It has been a steady drain of positivity as the losing has continued. It is understandable . I have felt more negative myself. The good news is winning again will restore most folks back to the middle. Some folks here are hopeless but they are actually in the minority. With good coaches and hopefully Cam recovering we could be back in the mix next year 

[Matt62881]

7 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

It has been a steady drain of positivity as the losing has continued. It is understandable . I have felt more negative myself. The good news is winning again will restore most folks back to the middle. Some folks here are hopeless but they are actually in the minority. With good coaches and hopefully Cam recovering we could be back in the mix next year 

With this scenario along with a decent draft we are right back into it, I feel more negative too but to an extent where I'm still logical not Luke sucked this year when 50 percent or more of the plays he was being held by an olineman. I'd rather find the problem a figure out why its a problem and how to fix it, not resort to the entire defense sucks.

[App Panther]

I want to believe you, I really do. But this reads like a crazy person wrote it.

Also, look at our returners since Bersin and Marty had his say.

[LiQuiD]

Can't stop laughing. Marty 2.0 has been nearly all misses. After the last half of this season, we're going to need several good drafts to become relevant again plus great FA needs to fill the gaps in the meantime.

With the way this guy spends money and gives up picks like pennies, it should be obvious to the most casual observer that the answer is not the creator of this roster.

Forgive me for not holding my breath waiting on this team's sustained success.

[Matt62881]

7 minutes ago, App Panther said:

I want to believe you, I really do. But this reads like a crazy person wrote it.

Also, look at our returners since Bersin and Marty had his say.

I could be wrong but I like the guy we drafted to return the ball....Terry Goodwin? 

[panthers55]

12 minutes ago, Matt62881 said:

With this scenario along with a decent draft we are right back into it, I feel more negative too but to an extent where I'm still logical not Luke sucked this year when 50 percent or more of the plays he was being held by an olineman. I'd rather find the problem a figure out why ite a problem and how to fix it, not resort to the entire defense sucks.

Truth is that it really requires some different skills in a 3-4 versus a 4-3 as we discussed before. Luke is not able to shed blocks from O linemen and make tackles. It isn't that he can't or won't figure it out simply he didn't. When you give up almost 70 lbs in weight you need some great elusive skills and quickness  to work around the blocker and still stay in the play. He is undersized for a 3-4 linebacker just like Ray Lewis was sometimes accused of at 6'1" and 250.  And that is 15lbs more than Kueckly and 20 on Shaq  if we are going to stay 3-4 they both need to go add some bulk to take on O linemen or get around them.

[Matt62881]

5 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Truth is that it really requires some different skills in a 3-4 versus a 4-3 as we discussed before. Luke is not able to shed blocks from O linemen and make tackles. It isn't that he can't or won't figure it out simply he didn't. When you give up almost 70 lbs in weight you need some great elusive skills and quickness  to work around the blocker and still stay in the play. He is undersized for a 3-4 linebacker just like Ray Lewis was sometimes accused of at 6'1" and 250.  And that is 15lbs more than Kueckly and 20 on Shaq  if we are going to stay 3-4 they both need to go add some bulk to take on O linemen or get around them.

True however, with proper 0 and 1 tech's they wont be touched anywhere near as much as this year and definitely not both in the same play. If you even have 1 DT taking on a double team that leaves Shaq or Luke to attack but I've always seen a proper 34 being ran with two guys taking double team s on the majority of snaps. A NT in a 43 can be 320....in a 34 he really needs to be 330 plus and the defensive ends are basically DTs from a 43 315 vs 280 in a 43. If my understanding is correct anyway and not to say my weights aren't off.