McCaffrey named All-Pro...twice

[Palmetto]

1 minute ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

I mean .. he already had a season with 1,000 rushing 1,000 receiving .. they probably won't top that .. this season is the statistical ceiling for CMC

I'd love to see what Bieniemy could do with Cam Newton

CMC could definitely run for 2000 yards if the team around him gets better

[TheRed]

59 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

Why do you present these as mutually exclusive options? Good offenses look downfield and take the checkdown if the downfield option is covered. I am pretty sure a qb can throw 1,000 yards to his rb and still have a deep threat receiver who accounts for significant yardage. That is basically the KC offense in a nutshell or the Saints the last couple years with Kamara. Once we have a qb capable of throwing down the field with accuracy, I don't expect CMC to languish. We'll just be that much more difficult to stop.

Haha this is nowhere near the KC offense. That's a machine. Even without Mahomes they've still been lighting teams up.

The harsh truth that guys just don't want to hear is you can't run your whole offense through a running back and expect to win consistently for long. Force feeding him more isn't the answer.

Even more truth is now this puts the team in a bind for future contract negotiations. We've made it clear how much we value him, and now he is valuable at two pricey positions. And what do we have to show for it? Another wasted season.

If Cam is done this year or the next McCaffrey or another valuable player could end up being trade bait. We need a franchise quarterback.

[Toomers]

   CMC rolls for 1000/1000 and All Pro behind a bad OL and every team keying on his every move and that means nothing? That seems to be a problem for the same “motivated” posters anything he does brings. 
 

 On the flip side, get ready to pay him 15M/year, at least. It’s extension time, and it doesn’t matter how great a person he is he wants a new contract. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

*beep beep beep* the sound of the brinks truck backing up for CMC

[TheMostInterestingMan]

8 hours ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

No I won't stop de-valuing what he did on a 5-11 team ..

If McCaffrey was so good they wouldn't have been 5-11

Stats are for losers .. if we force fed Scarlett or Bonnafon what kind of stats do you think they'd have? I'll tell you .. similar stats.

Cam has had 5 losing season you fugging moron lol

just stop 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

2 hours ago, Toomers said:

   CMC rolls for 1000/1000 and All Pro behind a bad OL and every team keying on his every move and that means nothing? That seems to be a problem for the same “motivated” posters anything he does brings. 
 

 On the flip side, get ready to pay him 15M/year, at least. It’s extension time, and it doesn’t matter how great a person he is he wants a new contract. 

Yep, this is where Marty’s job gets tricky (and sadly I’m not confident he can navigate it right)

If Cam can come back healthy, you pay CMC and we make whatever kind of a push we can. If Cam can’t come back, I’m not sure it’s really wise to make CMC the highest paid RB in the league on this roster. We have so many holes and RBs getting the insane kind of workload as CMC rarely last beyond 3-4 years at that level. Not saying he can’t do it, but it doesn’t happen often. 
 

And we really won’t win anything without a competent QB regardless of how well CMC does. We really need a healthy Cam or it’s full on rebuild time regardless of what we want to do imo

[bobowilson]

9 hours ago, mc52beast said:

Are you seriously telling me that Scarlett and Bonnafon could have went 1000-1000 with a piss poor line and qb’s who should be backups. You are delusional.

Austin Ekeler had 993 receiving yards for the Chargers this year, and would have had 1000 yards rushing if he wasn't splitting carries with Melvin Gordon

How many people even know who Austin Ekeler is?

I don't think Scarlett or Bonnafon are as good as Austin Ekeler, but a lot of backs could do 1000-1000 if the offense suited that style of play.  Not many people get these type of stats because spamming your RB check downs is not an efficient way to win games, and not surprisingly, the Chargers were about as bad as us.

[mav1234]

46 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Austin Ekeler had 993 receiving yards for the Chargers this year, and would have had 1000 yards rushing if he wasn't splitting carries with Melvin Gordon

How many people even know who Austin Ekeler is?

I don't think Scarlett or Bonnafon are as good as Austin Ekeler, but a lot of backs could do 1000-1000 if the offense suited that style of play.  Not many people get these type of stats because spamming your RB check downs is not an efficient way to win games, and not surprisingly, the Chargers were about as bad as us.

CMC wasn't special only because of 1k yards receiving.  He also had 1400 yards rushing and he practically was the entire focus of opposing defenses, and had 19 total TDs.  

No offense to Ekeler, who is a great receiver, but he is not the runner that CMC is.  Not many players are capable of getting 2k yards from scrimmage because that player is heavily gameplanned against.  And what Ekeler did WAS special.  It was not ordinary.  He was one of only 2 RBs this year to be in the top 50 in receiving yards and one of only 3 in the top 75.  What CMC did was remarkable, because he was #3 in rushing yards and had more than 1k receiving yards.  Crazy.

[OriginalPantherDan]

11 hours ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

No I won't stop de-valuing what he did on a 5-11 team ..

If McCaffrey was so good they wouldn't have been 5-11

Stats are for losers .. if we force fed Scarlett or Bonnafon what kind of stats do you think they'd have? I'll tell you .. similar stats.

By your logic, the Browns should’ve had multiple guys topping 2k yards/season over the last few years. But your logic is flawed, and they haven’t. What CMC did cannot be devalued no matter how poor the Panthers record was this year.