Rhule analysis from a Baylor beat reporter

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

It was alright that Atlanta showed the league the blueprint on how to beat us ..

Teams still have to be good enough to execute the plan to beat us .. Seattle and Arizona knew the blueprint and still couldn't beat us .. Denver finally was good enough to stop us

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

It was alright that Atlanta showed the league the blueprint on how to beat us ..

Teams still have to be good enough to execute the plan to beat us

Quick hint: They were.

But the fact that we didn't try and adjust helped an awful lot.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Quick hint: They were.

But the fact that we didn't try and adjust helped an awful lot.

Yeah .. but keeping things as they were .. we had lost once .. I can understand the thought behind changing it up .. but I can also understand why the staff said .. you know what's coming .. stop this! - and they did stop us ..

Great teams ... the defense knows what's coming and the defense still can't stop it.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

Yeah .. but keeping things as they were .. we had lost once .. I can understand the thought behind changing it up .. but I can also understand why the staff said .. you know what's coming .. stop this! - and they did stop us ..

Great teams ... the defense knows what's coming and the defense still can't stop it.

Unless the other team figures out a way to beat you.

Then you have to adjust, if you're smart enough to do so.

Rivera wasn't. And that's the biggest reason why he's not here anymore. There were more times when the opposing coach was smarter than him than vice versa.

Here's hoping that Rhule has a better functioning cerebrum than Rivera did.

[Shufdog]

Damn, why are y'all trying to relive that awful night?

[mc52beast]

Wait a minute, we have a coach who;

1) knows how to adjust

2) isn’t afraid to try new things 

 

I believe the Panthers organization has finally entered the 21st century

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

3 minutes ago, Shufdog said:

Damn, why are y'all trying to relive that awful night?

I'd say there's a chance Rhule doesn't even come close to sniffing that kind of awful night .. and I think any success Rhule has is going to require Rhule to employ "..Save me Cam.." just like Rivera

[MHS831]

The stuff I LOVE to hear--he finds athletes and develops them--he is flexible, creates the system around the talent and not the other way around--like Rivera.

Ron's collapse this year can be about Cam---but there were other factors hidden in Cam's shadow--how much did the 3-4 switch change free agency and the draft?  In free agency, the biggest signings were Paradis ($4m), McCoy (needed a 3-4 DE--$8m), Williams ($6m), and Irvin ($4m).  What did we get for $22m in cap room? Well, you could argue that Irvin and McCoy combined for 13.5 sacks, which makes each sack less than $1m in salary.  However, the pro-pass rush, weak run defense offset any advantages we got by sacking QBs.  Secondly, Williams and Paradis ($10m) were 40% of an OL (much of the year) that surrendered 58 sacks. 

So needing a DT and DE to fit the 3-4 cost the team $12m in free agency and we go old free agents that once terrorized us.

On to the draft, where Marty drafted a 3-4 OLB in the first and fourth rounds.  Instead of a first-round OT, he drafted Little and Daley. 

So if he did not need to spend $12 m on 3-4 talent in free agency and use the first round pick on an OLB, could we have used that money and that pick to address other needs? 

The Point?  Ron thought the system needed changing so he switched without the personnel to do it. 

It cost him his job.  Sure Cam's injury hurt, but beneath the Cam smoke is the splurge in free agency and the draft that netted nothing.

[Shufdog]

3 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

I'd say there's a chance Rhule doesn't even come close to sniffing that kind of awful night .. and I think any success Rhule has is going to require Rhule to employ "..Save me Cam.." just like Rivera

What are you going to if Cam is not here?

[PantherCam213]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

The stuff I LOVE to hear--he finds athletes and develops them--he is flexible, creates the system around the talent and not the other way around--like Rivera.

Ron's collapse this year can be about Cam---but there were other factors hidden in Cam's shadow--how much did the 3-4 switch change free agency and the draft?  In free agency, the biggest signings were Paradis ($4m), McCoy (needed a 3-4 DE--$8m), Williams ($6m), and Irvin ($4m).  What did we get for $22m in cap room? Well, you could argue that Irvin and McCoy combined for 13.5 sacks, which makes each sack less than $1m in salary.  However, the pro-pass rush, weak run defense offset any advantages we got by sacking QBs.  Secondly, Williams and Paradis ($10m) were 40% of an OL (much of the year) that surrendered 58 sacks. 

So needing a DT and DE to fit the 3-4 cost the team $12m in free agency and we go old free agents that once terrorized us.

On to the draft, where Marty drafted a 3-4 OLB in the first and fourth rounds.  Instead of a first-round OT, he drafted Little and Daley. 

So if he did not need to spend $12 m on 3-4 talent in free agency and use the first round pick on an OLB, could we have used that money and that pick to address other needs? 

The Point?  Ron thought the system needed changing so he switched without the personnel to do it. 

It cost him his job.  Sure Cam's injury hurt, but beneath the Cam smoke is the splurge in free agency and the draft that netted nothing.

How much influence did RR have on personnel though?  From what I've read, not much.  Let's hope Rhule can convince Hurney that he knows what he needs better than Hurney does.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

23 minutes ago, Shufdog said:

What are you going to if Cam is not here?

If Cam leaves the Panthers I'm going to make a video of myself burning everything I have of the Panthers ..

And I absolutely loved the Panthers before Cam

[GRWatcher]

Ya'll are parroting draft athletes and develop them as if it's a new concept to the Panthers. It's not. We've been trying that all along. Our greatest success? Steve Smith. Our current athlete to develop? Brian Burns. Maybe even Donte Jackson. And we've had our failures. Armanti Edwards comes to mind. So too, Drew Carter. Several o-lineman. Every NFL team does it. It's not new. I am hoping we have more successes than failures with Rhul but it's not a new concept.

[Jon Snow]

7 hours ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

If Cam leaves the Panthers I'm going to make a video of myself burning everything I have of the Panthers ..

And I absolutely loved the Panthers before Cam

Sure you did.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Sure you did.

I was on this joint in 2006 (GoCarolina8990) - 2005 - that post-season made me a fan. Went to Training Camp in 2010 and got a Smith autograph among others. Yeah, I've been a die hard Panthers fan for as long as I've been a fan of sports.

I wanted Jim Harbaugh and Luck so bad. Then that came crashing down and we got Cam Newton. And you have no idea how much I am happy how that turned out.

Cam Newton is who I want to be the greatest Panther and QB of all-time .. Cam, man, is special. Special, special.

Cam needs to be the greatest Panther of all-time .. that's just the way it is .. nobody is going to ever be close to another Cam Newton .. man has 58 rushing TD's .. man is a season or two from breaking Vick all-time rushing for QB ..

No, this man is not done.