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Why the Panthers might Draft Herbert

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1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

These are all legitimate concerns, but it is not like this team isn't overloaded with legitimate concerns across the board. 

Agreed.  But I think they are looking at a process to develop a team around a new QB---even if he sits for a season.  To me, it does not seem right to build a team that will be competitive in 3 seasons around a QB that will be 34 at the time--and banged up.  Injuries add up, and Cam has been so tough and so targeted for so long---I am amazed that he is not following Luck to Shady Acres.

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As mentioned in the prologue, this is not Herbert vs. Cam.  This is about the decision the Panthers could have to make---stay with Cam or take a player who could be the QB for a decade or more.

Opinions about Herbert vary, and I am not interested in them---the point is---what will the Panthers do when given the chance (if given the chance) to take a QB with those skills? 

There are 3 players that could really change this draft in terms of where the QBs go---Rivers, Mariota, and Bridgewater.  If either is signed by Miami or the Chargers, Herbert (barring trades) could be there. 

Part of me wonders if they hope Herbert is gone so they do not have to make that call.  If Herbert becomes a pro bowler and Cam never recovers....people will remember the draft for decades.

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26 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=cam+newton&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=niv&sxsrf=ACYBGNRM-eOlTbPjOPtd8g3jo2E5CKzwcg:1580949777909&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiJ463v2LvnAhWqc98KHTplDigQ_AUoAXoECBEQAQ&cshid=1580949918846&biw=360&bih=617

 

Did I miss something?  Why all the "cams getting traded" articles all of a sudden?

Post Super Bowl offseason?  They sure sound confident.

" Although Cam Newton recently said he expects to be the starter for the Panthers during the 2020 NFL season, all signs are pointing to his potential departure. "

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11 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Agreed.  But I think they are looking at a process to develop a team around a new QB---even if he sits for a season.  To me, it does not seem right to build a team that will be competitive in 3 seasons around a QB that will be 34 at the time--and banged up.  Injuries add up, and Cam has been so tough and so targeted for so long---I am amazed that he is not following Luck to Shady Acres.

The Panthers may already have a long term plan in place (would be kinda surprised if they didn't) but they have nothing to lose by taking a healed up Cam for a test drive in 2020.  Plans are subject to revision.

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15 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

What does Justin Herbert do better than Cam?

Maybe things will be different and hopefully so, but Cam does not have the cannon he had a few years ago.  Not sure if it is the new throwing motion, surgery or what.  Plus with the surgery on his foot, some loss of mobility can be expected.  This goes with all the "questions" that the OP is probably talking about.

March will tell the tale of his physical condition and then plans can be formed around whatever the BPA is for the Panthers

For the Panthers sake, it would be best if he regains all his physical prowess

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1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The Panthers may already have a long term plan in place (would be kinda surprised if they didn't) but they have nothing to lose taking a healed up Cam for a test drive in 2020.

I think that is the smart move for 2020---but this feels like a rebuild, not a reload or a turnaround.  (might look back at these posts in a year and laugh at myself).  We cant trade him entering free agency---he walks or he re-signs.  So we could get some value for him now AND some cap room.  That may be the long-term play, vs. what is best for 2020.  I think he could stay and we could use the year to develop a rookie--

I just get the feeling that Cam is not going to get better--we have seen his best in 2015--but we are going to see all he has.  Will that be worth a huge contract?

I genuinely would not be surprised to see any scenario. 

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2 minutes ago, stirs said:

Maybe things will be different and hopefully so, but Cam does not have the cannon he had a few years ago.  Not sure if it is the new throwing motion, surgery or what.  Plus with the surgery on his foot, some loss of mobility can be expected.  This goes with all the "questions" that the OP is probably talking about.

March will tell the tale of his physical condition and then plans can be formed around whatever the BPA is for the Panthers

For the Panthers sake, it would be best if he regains all his physical prowess

Right---nobody is making any decisions until March.  A healthy Cam benefits the Panthers more than a damaged Cam--traded or kept.

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Just now, Shocker said:

Their final college season passing stats are fairly similar.  Of course Cams rushing stats were seriously crazy though.

Yep---but what kind of numbers (rushing) is Cam capable of putting up now?  And at what cost?

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1 minute ago, stirs said:

One question that I seriously don't have the answer for.

Is Burrow and Tua both introverts also, or just the opposite?

 I can tell you that after the Senior Bowl, Herbert was surrounded by players from both teams--he got sumthin goin on.

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