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A kinda serious, way too long question about Teddy.

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I, for the most part, only care about what is good for the team as a whole, and what specific moves the team should make to give us a better shot at winning a Lombardi in the future.

I do like some players more than others, and I'm not a big fan of seeing them in other uniforms....TD, Jake, Stew, Kalil, Cam, Peppers, etc...but I'm certainly not a diehard fan of single players.

With that said, I did/do think that the very best direction for the team to take was to make the very worst of 2020.  Clear out overpaid guys, clear out the cap completely, sign a couple of our core important players (James and Moton), acquire as much draft capitol as possible, draft heavily toward the lines (especially offensive), and give out very few back loaded contracts.

In other words, I wanted to give this coach, and wishfully new front office all the tools it needed to win a Lombardi over the next 5/6 years.  In my opinion, the very best way to accomplish that is to have a good to great quarterback on a rookie deal, a good team around him, and some cap flexibility to make necessary moves to push you over the top once you get there.

The Panthers found themselves in this exact position the moment they decided to move on from Cam.  They knew they were going to have a historically bad defense.  They know what they have in Grier and Kyle.  They can easily look at the roster and the cap and make the moves to clear out the older guys, and dump all the money this offseason.  Hell, by the incompetence of the front office, the perfect scenario was staring them in the face. 

Historically bad, with a pair of possible generational QB's in the following years NFL draft.

So I write all of that to ask why would the team sign Teddy Bridgewater?

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To answer your question, no clue. I just can't see us competing for a playoff berth this season and Bridgewater very well could be the difference between contending for the #1 overall pick and sitting on another borderline top 5 pick. We're basically spending $20M per season on average to potentially cost ourselves very valuable draft position.

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26 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

For Tua, Love or Herbert to sit and learn from.

Its the only thing I can think of that would make this signing make sense in the slightest 

Wouldn't it be smarter to go after Rivers, and a shorter/cheaper deal?

At least we know Rivers is made of titanium, has a VAST knowledge of the game, and would 100% understand his role?

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1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

Wouldn't it be smarter to go after Rivers, and a shorter/cheaper deal?

At least we know Rivers is made of titanium, has a VAST knowledge of the game, and would 100% understand his role?

I’d even argue it would’ve been smarter to use the Bridgewater money on a guy like Austin Hooper or Jack Conklin to better help our young QB.

But yeah, I agree. The only thing I could then think of would be that maybe they wanted someone that had familiarity with Joe Brady?

Just so we’re clear no matter what the case may be I think this was a terrible brain dead signing that only sets us back. It sets us back in terms of draft position and cap implications. 

I believe I saw that it’s structured in a way that it’s essentially a 2 year deal? But if Tepper and Rhule think they can just trade up for Lawrence or Fields next draft they’ve lost their damn minds 

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They signed Teddy because Joe Brady worked with him in New Orleans and believes he will play well in his offense. He certainly is better than Grier or Allen. And the Panthers, for whatever reason, are no longer committed to Cam. 

Tanking a season to draft a player is not a guarantee. There have been a lot of first round QB busts in the NFL. 

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1 minute ago, thennek said:

They signed Teddy because Joe Brady worked with him in New Orleans and believes he will play well in his offense. He certainly is better than Grier or Allen. And the Panthers, for whatever reason, are no longer committed to Cam. 

Tanking a season to draft a player is not a guarantee. There have been a lot of first round QB busts in the NFL. 

If this is the case then it just further proves their incompetence if they think they’re going to be able to compete in this division with Bridgewater.

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15 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Wouldn't it be smarter to go after Rivers, and a shorter/cheaper deal?

At least we know Rivers is made of titanium, has a VAST knowledge of the game, and would 100% understand his role?

Didn't he lead the league in picks last year?

What's he going to teach, how to turn the ball over? We already had a couple quarterbacks on the roster capable of that.

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5 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’d even argue it would’ve been smarter to use the Bridgewater money on a guy like Austin Hooper or Jack Conklin to better help our young QB.

But yeah, I agree. The only thing I could then think of would be that maybe they wanted someone that had familiarity with Joe Brady?

Just so we’re clear no matter what the case may be I think this was a terrible brain dead signing that only sets us back. It sets us back in terms of draft position and cap implications. 

I believe I saw that it’s structured in a way that it’s essentially a 2 year deal? But if Tepper and Rhule think they can just trade up for Lawrence or Fields next draft they’ve lost their damn minds 

That's gonna be the argument from most of the "tanking doesn't work" crowd.  In a normal draft, say the one with Watson, Trubisky, and Mahomes, that would be correct, you don't have to have a top 3 pick to get your guy.

However, you didn't have the standout QBs like you do with Lawrence and Fields....and Luck back in the day.  You aren't going to be able to trade up for those guys, assuming they have college seasons like we expect.

I just don't get it....you weren't even tanking, you would just be able to use one of our favorite sayings around here...."maybe the answer is on the roster" and trot out your 3rd round QB from last season.

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5 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Didn't he lead the league in picks last year?

What's he going to teach, how to turn the ball over? We already had a couple quarterbacks on the roster capable of that.

1 year 25M vs. 3 year 63M.

Never missed a game vs. Phantom Field Monster attack.

Started a bazillion NFL games vs. not close to as much knowledge.

I'm not advocating for Rivers, but if given the choice, I would have rather gone that route and kept the cap space.

P.S. not advocating for a 1st round QB this draft either.

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