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Sports Illustrated claims we have 48.1 million in dead money this season.

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4 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

So we should give large contracts to players who have proven nothing? I find this argument rediculous because no one knows whats going to happen in the future.  All you can do is base it on past performance and hope it can continue, its what every GM does.  

  You sure don’t give out bad contracts 90% of the time. Which is exactly what 2.0 has done. Plus very “little” out of 2 drafts. How do you think this team got here? Yet, he’s still in charge and still has no clue which direction to go. Based on past performance, this team will suck for awhile. Who should get the blame for the worst roster situation in the NFL? 

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6 minutes ago, Bronn said:

I'm of the thought that the Panthers believe that there won't be a 2020 NFL season or, at the very least, an abbreviated one.

They are pretty much cooking the books and hitting the reset button on the franchise at this point. They are betting that dead cap, etc. will void/come off the books or have a lessened impact moving forward.

1 year deals for backups with potential. I expect you'll see us start accumulating extra draft picks soon, somehow.

They're hoping they timed their reboot well, with the state of the world right now.

Most of our moves were made prior to this widespread panic, so I am not going to give credit to the organization for that. Tepper has also pretty much been warning he was going to nuke the franchise for the last few months. 

We have largely overpaid backups, dumped veterans and not gained much in terms of draft capital, so it's pretty hard to fully understand the direction. It seems to be weighted towards not having almost any players committed to the roster past 2021 and freeing up future cap space. 

I am honestly quite a bit nervous that we will end up making some early Dan Snyder moves in 2022. We'll see what happens. 

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8 hours ago, PantherBoy95 said:

I guess the positive would be that next off-season they would have the most cap space as they look to shape Rhule's roster right?

Unfortunately not. Kuechlys dead money next year is 7m. If you cut Short (likely) that's 11.5m. Paradis if he continues to be a liability is a 5.4 DM hit. Then there's Gano who had that horrific leg injury. 

 Its one thing having a huge dead money hit in one season as you reshuffle but this is a testament to how badly the cap was managed.

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5 minutes ago, Catsmiaow said:

Unfortunately not. Kuechlys dead money next year is 7m. If you cut Short (likely) that's 11.5m. Paradis if he continues to be a liability is a 5.4 DM hit. Then there's Gano who had that horrific leg injury. 

 Its one thing having a huge dead money hit in one season as you reshuffle but this is a testament to how badly the cap was managed.

Even with that dead money we will still have almost $90 mil in cap space in 2021. 

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3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Oh... ouch. I figured it was just glitch. God damn Hurney is dumb.

Not sure if that was mostly Gettleman or mostly Hurney. That signing happened right after Gettleman got fired(July 17th he is fired, July 21st Turner gets an extension). 

Regardless, that contract is really structured about the same way most of them are as far as prorating the signing bonus. 

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6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Not sure if that was mostly Gettleman or mostly Hurney. That signing happened right after Gettleman got fired(July 17th he is fired, July 21st Turner gets an extension). 

Regardless, that contract is really structured about the same way most of them are as far as prorating the signing bonus. 

  It was restructuring by Hurney. We would have been out for 3M this year if not for that. Same with KK. 

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8 hours ago, PantherBoy95 said:

I guess the positive would be that next off-season they would have the most cap space as they look to shape Rhule's roster right?

Correct.  It would also give us enough cap space to sign our own players to extensions, but instead of using signing bonuses we could give out large roster bonuses.  This gives us even more freedom going forward.

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18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Not sure if that was mostly Gettleman or mostly Hurney. That signing happened right after Gettleman got fired(July 17th he is fired, July 21st Turner gets an extension). 

Regardless, that contract is really structured about the same way most of them are as far as prorating the signing bonus. 

We didn’t have to trade him for a 32 year old who’s only on contract for 1 season at a whopping 22.5 million if you count the dead money from Trai. 13 million cap hit, 9.5 million dead. That’s on Hurney. He didn’t even get a draft pick on the trade.

He must of really wanted out of here or rhule didn’t like him. 

I mean fug our to be starting QB is only a million higher on the cap hit than Okung.

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7 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  It was restructuring by Hurney. We would have been out for 3M this year if not for that. Same with KK. 

That's right, I forgot about that restructure. Yeah, that was dumb. But, all the moves from last year indicated "win now" mode. It's just that almost all of them failed. 

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5 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

We didn’t have to trade him for a 32 year old who’s only on contract for 1 season at a whopping 22.5 million if you count the dead money from Trai. 13 million cap hit, 9.5 million dead. That’s on Hurney.

He must of really wanted out of here or rhule didn’t like him. 

I mean fug our to be starting QB is only a million higher on the cap hit than Okung.

We can actually cut Okung and get 100% of the salary back. He has no dead money for us.

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