Contingency Plan. Code Name: Nick Mullens

[top dawg]

[Proudiddy]

2 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

So good that he was replaced by a journeyman QB.  

He was actually replaced by their former 3rd round pick.

[Proudiddy]

1 hour ago, TNPanther said:

This thread aged well. Lol

Not that I want to go to bat for Nick Mullens, because this wasn't what this thread was supposed to be about...  Rather, I was simply stating he showed great potential for a young QB in limited action and could be a good guy to bring into the fold regardless of what our future plans at QB are - be it Teddy or a draft pick.  But, of course, huddle has to huddle so this became, "herp derp, you said you wanted nick mullens over teddy."

So let's look at where they both were as rookies...  again, one guy was a FA and the other a 1st round pick.  Also, the game Nick just got yanked in was no worse than the game Teddy just had against Tampa.  Difference is, one is making 24M, the other 750k.  Again, I think it was a fair comparison.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Nick+Mullens&player_id1_select=Nick+Mullens&player_id1=MullNi00&idx=pfr__players&fromyear_1=2018&toyear_1=2020&player_id2_hint=Teddy+Bridgewater&player_id2_select=Teddy+Bridgewater&player_id2=BridTe00&idx=pfr__players&fromyear_2=2014&toyear_2=2020

[Pantherxtreme]

8 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Not that I want to go to bat for Nick Mullens, because this wasn't what this thread was supposed to be about...  Rather, I was simply stating he showed great potential for a young QB in limited action and could be a good guy to being into the fold regardless of what our future plans at QB are - be it Teddy or a draft pick.  But, of course, huddle has to huddle so this became, "herp derp, you said you wanted nick mullens over teddy."

So let's look at where they both were as rookies...  again, one guy was a FA and the other a 1st round pick.  Also, the game Nick just got yanked in was no worse than the game Teddy just had against Tampa.  Difference is, one is making 24M, the other 750k.  Again, I think it was a fair comparison.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Nick+Mullens&player_id1_select=Nick+Mullens&player_id1=MullNi00&idx=pfr__players&fromyear_1=2018&toyear_1=2020&player_id2_hint=Teddy+Bridgewater&player_id2_select=Teddy+Bridgewater&player_id2=BridTe00&idx=pfr__players&fromyear_2=2014&toyear_2=2020

Teddy was leading the Minnesota Vikings to a division title and a playoff berth in his 2nd season. But yea he compares to Nick Mullens haha..

[Khyber53]

On 9/27/2020 at 8:11 PM, Carl Spackler said:

You’re assuming we will win 6-8 more games this year. We can go 1-15 and still get Lawrence. Hell, 4-12 gets you Fields. There’s no way we win more than 4 just looking at our schedule. 

We'll win six or more games. Just watch.

[LinvilleGorge]

I guess the first few games of Allen last season didn't teach people to not fall in love with QB's with small sample sizes...

[Proudiddy]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I guess the first few games of Allen last season didn't teach people to not fall in love with QB's with small sample sizes...

Lol, Mullens is NOT Kyle Allen.  Allen throws the ball well but has absolutely no ball security and possibly the worst pocket awareness I have ever seen.  And I was very vocal about my lack of belief in Allen very early on.

[Proudiddy]

3 hours ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Teddy was getting carried by the Minnesota Vikings to a division title and a playoff berth in his 2nd season. But yea he compares to Nick Mullens haha..

Fixed it for you.

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Teddy was leading the Minnesota Vikings to a division title and a playoff berth in his 2nd season. But yea he compares to Nick Mullens haha..

Exactly what I was going to say. There really is no comparison!

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

Fixed it for you.

That's bull! Teddy's experience in Minnesota was far from perfect. His line absolutely stunk (Football Outsiders & PFF will confirm), and his receivers weren't doing him many favors either. I am too lazy to search for the article I posted here weeks ago, but here is another one.

People intimating that Teddy had some great situation and was carried to the offseason simply don't know what they're talking about, and aren't being subtle with their agenda to get rid of Bridgewater at all costs, even at the cost of the truth.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-vikings-teddy-bridgewater-injury-return

I am not totally sold on Teddy because of his lack of arm, but he's a good QB who is fortunately working off the rust. Ball security is improving and getting to where we thought it would be, and we're winning. He's been a major factor in those wins, so stop talking about the guy like he's chopped liver. It's not very football smart!

[LinvilleGorge]

30 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Lol, Mullens is NOT Kyle Allen.  Allen throws the ball well but has absolutely no ball security and possibly the worst pocket awareness I have ever seen.  And I was very vocal about my lack of belief in Allen very early on.

Remember when Matt Flynn stepped in for Aaron Rodgers and threw for like 500 yards and 6 TDs then the Seahawks signed him to a big contract only for him to immediately get beat out by a 3rd round pick named Russell Wilson afterwards he was barely heard from again? Yeah, backup QBs having short-term success isn't exactly unheard of.

[*FreeFua*]

17 minutes ago, top dawg said:

That's bull! Teddy's experience in Minnesota was far from perfect. His line absolutely stunk (Football Outsiders & PFF will confirm), and his receivers weren't doing him many favors either. I am too lazy to search for the article I posted here weeks ago, but here is another one.

People intimating that Teddy had some great situation and was carried to the offseason simply don't know what they're talking about, and aren't being subtle with their agenda to get rid of Bridgewater at all costs, even at the cost of the truth.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-vikings-teddy-bridgewater-injury-return

I am not totally sold on Teddy because of his lack of arm, but he's a good QB who is fortunately working off the rust. Ball security is improving and getting to where we thought it would be, and we're winning. He's been a major factor in those wins, so stop talking about the guy like he's chopped liver. It's not very football smart!

I made a thread detailing all the stuff he had to deal with in Minnesota...

Helps give you a better understanding of why his oh so important box score stats looked the way they did

[PantherPhann89]

Teddy Bridgewater deserves respect from Panther fans... He had mine! Keep Pounding Teddy B

[Proudiddy]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

That's bull! Teddy's experience in Minnesota was far from perfect. His line absolutely stunk (Football Outsiders & PFF will confirm), and his receivers weren't doing him many favors either. I am too lazy to search for the article I posted here weeks ago, but here is another one.

People intimating that Teddy had some great situation and was carried to the offseason simply don't know what they're talking about, and aren't being subtle with their agenda to get rid of Bridgewater at all costs, even at the cost of the truth.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-vikings-teddy-bridgewater-injury-return

I am not totally sold on Teddy because of his lack of arm, but he's a good QB who is fortunately working off the rust. Ball security is improving and getting to where we thought it would be, and we're winning. He's been a major factor in those wins, so stop talking about the guy like he's chopped liver. It's not very football smart!

Truth be told, my standing on Teddy is similar to yours, but the huddle doesn't operate in reasonable middle grounds, but rather extremes.  This thread went left...  I am not sold on Teddy either, but he has turned it on the last couple of games.  This thread was simply presenting an option in a guy who could be brought in, who has starting experience, and for the most part has played well.  It's not proclaiming Mullens a franchise QB.  It's not proclaiming Mullens to even be a sure-fire starter, or even better than Teddy...  I simply presented the idea of bringing in a guy as another option if Teddy didn't pan out.