Seeing Walker makes me see Teddy's limitations too

[Floppin]

Another thing I noticed was that while scrambling Walker kept his eyes downfield. Conversely, when Bridgewater scrambles he just seems to immediately tuck and try and run for his life (usually badly)

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Yes I do.. He just not good enough to carry a bad oline against better teams... There is also alot of Film on Teddy which is not a issue for PJ... Again PJ played a horrible team and threw the worst red zone Ints I've ever seen.. But the team won so it is what it is..

In what manner is Teddy more talented?

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

I feel like that Rhule blowing smoke. It's pretty clear on the second one PJ was at fault. DJ got bumped and PJ still through it back corner where there was 4 defenders instead of adjusting. Thats not on the DJ thats on Walker.

The first one... Bad call, bad read, bad throw.

It sounded like he was saying the miscues in the first half were for that reason and then mentioned the goalline throws could cost you...  so, I'm not sure if he considered the 2nd pick the receivers fault...  but, imo, that call may have been worse than the first pick.  We ran twice for barely anything and then threw it on goal to go from like the 11 (?) and ran a pass with only 2 receivers.  And again, I don't get the logic there bc  goalline situations are where inexperienced guys will struggle the most.

[WOW!!]

Just now, Floppin said:

Another thing I noticed was that while scrambling Walker kept his eyes downfield. Conversely, when Bridgewater scrambles he just seems to immediately tuck and try and run for his life (usually badly)

Wow okay this is getting worse... PJ is about to be Elway by the end of the day.. He was able to look down field because Detroit Sucks...

[Floppin]

Just now, WOW!! said:

Wow okay this is getting worse... PJ is about to be Elway by the end of the day.. He was able to look down field because Detroit Sucks...

Oh stop, I'm obviously commenting on what information we have and that was today's game. It was an observation of what I saw when he was flushed as a comparative to a known entity in the Bridgewater scramble. Shut up already. 

[Eric4280]

PJ Walker can be coached to fix his mistakes. Can’t deny that it just felt better watching him back there compared to Teddy. Teddy is what he is and I think we’ve honestly seen his ceiling. I wanna see more Pj.

[YoungPanthers89]

We'd be a contender with Cam btw

[WOW!!]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

In what manner is Teddy more talented?

More accurate passer.. Better timing passer.. More zip on short to intermediate passes.. Better decision maker. Quicker reads.  Bigger, better movement in the pocket..Just all around a better QB completely... PJ completed that 1 deep pass and ppl here are losing their minds. Even on PJ screen passes were inaccurate..

[WOW!!]

3 minutes ago, Floppin said:

Oh stop, I'm obviously commenting on what information we have and that was today's game. It was an observation of what I saw when he was flushed as a comparative to a known entity in the Bridgewater scramble. Shut up already. 

He was flushed and able to get away from horrible pass rushers.. Detroit sucked and PJ was avg. Against a very bad team..

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

More accurate passer.. Better timing passer.. More zip on short to intermediate passes.. Better decision maker. Quicker reads.  Bigger, better movement in the pocket..Just all around a better QB completely... PJ completed that 1 deep pass and ppl here are losing their minds. 

Virtually everything you mentioned has nothing to do with talent level. It has to do with skill level or possibly just experience and comfort level.

Teddy has more zip... LOLOLOLOL

[WOW!!]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Virtually everything you mentioned has nothing to do with talent level. It has to do with skill level or possibly just experience and comfort level.

Teddy has more zip... LOLOLOLOL

So Skill and Talent aren't the same thing.. Okay.. So is this a Physical question size speed power I guess?? I still think Teddy is bigger similar speed and similar arm strength.. Teddy is way more accurate..

[KSpan]

4 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

More accurate passer.. Better timing passer.. More zip on short to intermediate passes.. Better decision maker. Quicker reads.  Bigger, better movement in the pocket..Just all around a better QB completely... PJ completed that 1 deep pass and ppl here are losing their minds. 

That 1 deep pass, hitting a receiver in stride down the field, is something Teddy has also done maybe once (to Moore) in all his starts this season. Took PJ one game. It's an element that has been sorely missing.

Does this game mean Walker is better? Absolutely not. It does, however, show some of what PJ brings to the table and that he did it after less than a week of starter prep (according to reports that he and Grier split practice with the 1s) is encouraging. If folks were ready to declare the man after games earlier this year, then it's only fair to also say that PJ deserves more looks. 

[Floppin]

6 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

He was flushed and able to get away from horrible pass rushers.. Detroit sucked and PJ was avg. Against a very bad team..

And? Bridgewater has scrambled from equally bad pass-rushers and not looked downfield once. Yes the Lions are bad but they're not the only bad defense we've played this year. You keep applying hyperbole to things that no one is saying. Nobody is saying that he's perfect by any stretch, we just want to see more because we see a higher potential than the known entity with Bridgewater (which is on the low side of average). By all means, continue with your stupidity of putting words in others peoples optimism.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

So Skill and Talent aren't the same thing.. Okay.. So is this a Physical question size speed power I guess?? I still think Teddy is bigger similar speed and similar arm strength.. Teddy is way more accurate..

No skill and talent aren't the same thing. You really don't understand that?