Bridgewater "running out of time"

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, I still think we can land a solid young QB.   Do we land the once in decade QB? Nope.   Essentially no drafts ever have those anyway.  We should have our pick of QBs 3-5

   And it still doesn’t change that the Panthers gave up around 35M and a 3rd round pick that they didn’t have to at all. How was installing an offense this year helping a QB who’s still in college? 

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The mistakes you're talking about are mistakes we've seen before.

I think they would have happened regardless of whether the plan was to try and be competitive this season or not.

At what point do you quit making bad decision after bad decision, and still expect a different outcome?

 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, thefuzz said:

Yea, I would have much preferred a smart approach to building this roster vs. wasting cap space and draft picks to hope that Teddy is something that he's never been.

This team needed a top to bottom scrubbing, we half assed it....like usual, and it will take us much longer to round the corner because of it.

There were people who would potentially benefit more from a higher win total this season.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

At what point do you quit making bad decision after bad decision, and still expect a different outcome?

That's a question for David Tepper.

[CRA]

Just now, thefuzz said:

Yea, I would have much preferred a smart approach to building this roster vs. wasting cap space and draft picks to hope that Teddy is something that he's never been.

This team needed a top to bottom scrubbing, we half assed it....like usual, and it will take us much longer to round the corner because of it.

well, i would have preferred we did a lot of stuff different too.  

I simply think we have done worse things than have Teddy help this new staff getting the O up and running in a year of COVID. 

You can go back to the Double Trouble days, paying RBs never works out. Never been a fan.  Wasn't a fan of letting Bradberry walk.    Others should of. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

And an NFL head coach should have known that if you want something done a certain way, it's a good idea to actually tell somebody.

Right now, it doesn't even sound like Joe Brady knew. So even if Bridgewater had checked with the sidelines, it likely wouldn't have changed a thing.

This one is on Matt Rhule. It's a "heat of the moment" mistake, and likely not the only one he's made.

I agree Rhule is ultimately responsible for what we see.  Honestly I am not impressed with Brady's play calling but I am willing to give him a break because it's his first season doing it.  Teddy however should have known better.  Rhule was screaming about everything else going on in the game so he should have been aware of what was about to happen.

The ball was in Teddy's hands and unfortunately we've seen how that plays out when it matters.

[thefuzz]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, i would have preferred we did a lot of stuff different too.  

I simply think we have done worse things than have Teddy help this new staff getting the O up and running in a year of COVID. 

You can go back to the Double Trouble days, paying RBs never works out. Never been a fan.  Wasn't a fan of letting Bradberry walk.    Others should of. 

It's just one more piece of straw on that old camels back.

This team makes bad decision after bad decision only to be confused to be drafting in the top 10 all the time.  It's unbelievable to be honest.

I'm not giving this team any credit, at all...to hell with "getting our new O up and running", this team needs to look toward the future.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

I agree Rhule is ultimately responsible for what we see.  Honestly I am not impressed with Brady's play calling but I am willing to give him a break because it's his first season doing it.  Teddy however should have known better.  Rhule was screaming about everything else going on in the game so he should have been aware of what was about to happen.

The ball was in Teddy's hands and unfortunately we've seen how that plays out when it matters.

Teddy isn't the answer at quarterback. And to be honest, it's not absolutely cemented that Matt Rhule is the answer is head coach just yet. I would agree the returns for Rhule so far are better than the ones for Bridgewater.

With that said, my gut tells me that we've got another year of watching Bridgewater ahead of us before somebody else takes over.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

It's just one more piece of straw on that old camels back.

This team makes bad decision after bad decision only to be confused to be drafting in the top 10 all the time.  It's unbelievable to be honest.

I'm not giving this team any credit, at all...to hell with "getting our new O up and running", this team needs to look toward the future.

This is where I would differentiate between "the team" and the coaching staff though.

Getting the offense installed is a goal of the coaching staff, but the personnel mistakes your highlighting aren't necessarily coaching mistakes.

See what I mean?

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Teddy isn't the answer at quarterback. And to be honest, it's not absolutely cemented that Matt Rhule is the answer is head coach just yet. I would agree the returns for Rhule so far are better than the ones for Bridgewater.

With that said, my gut tells me that we've got another year of watching Bridgewater ahead of us before somebody else takes over.

At this point I have no idea what to expect from this team next season.  I agree that Teddy will be the guy next season regardless of who they acquire.

This team needs a lot of talent added and it's going to take a few more years to get there.  Maybe much longer if Hurney is finding said talent.

[thefuzz]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is where I would differentiate between "the team" and the coaching staff though.

Getting the offense installed is a goal of the coaching staff, but the personnel mistakes your highlighting aren't necessarily coaching mistakes.

See what I mean?

Oh, I do, it's why we need a "President of Football Operations" to tell Marty Hurney to STFU about a backup QB on a starters salary, signing Shaq and letting Bradberry and Moton walk...etc.

This team is in DIRE need of direction, and that direction should not be coming from a college coach with all but no pro experience, and a General Manager who has PROVEN year in and year out that he cannot put a winning football team on the field.

That old camel is finally broken.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

Oh, I do, it's why we need a "President of Football Operations" to tell Marty Hurney to STFU about a backup QB on a starters salary, signing Shaq and letting Bradberry and Moton walk...etc.

This team is in DIRE need of direction, and that direction should not be coming from a college coach with all but no pro experience, and a General Manager who has PROVEN year in and year out that he cannot put a winning football team on the field.

That old camel is finally broken.

This is why I'm up in the air about our future.

My gut feeling is that in the years to come, Matt Rhule is going to get more power, and ultimately perhaps become the center of the Panthers universe. Whoever is GM will be someone who doesn't exactly spend a lot of time disagreeing with Rhule about his decisions.

Maybe that'll be a good thing.

But maybe it won't.

[Toomers]

Just now, thefuzz said:

At what point do you quit making bad decision after bad decision, and still expect a different outcome?

 

You would hope it’s when you give a coach 9M/year and total control. 

[LinvilleGorge]