Person on the Fitterer hiring process

[Moo Daeng]

39 minutes ago, ellis said:

 but there are other franchises doing it in more progressive, transparent fashion.

 

What do you mean by that? How is transparent analysis important?

[Moo Daeng]

I don't want my analytics being transparent at all. It's proprietary information. My company exists because of our specific approach to analysis. Transparency is not the goal.

[SizzleBuzz]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

And perhaps we'll hire somebody from their sports science department.

But again, that's not who Fitterer is.

Tepper wouldn't have hired him if he wasn't fluent in analytics...

...you can be assured he is.  

[Panther'sBigD]

2 hours ago, BrianS said:

This sounds more like Seattle is using analytics to help them improve the players they already have, not evaluate the ones they don't have.  Less "moneyball" and more high tech fitness.

Here's another article from a link at the bottom of the one posted earlier: https://www.geekwire.com/2020/seattle-seahawks-deep-dive-analytics-starts-data-lake-built-amazon-web-services/

The first bullet point mentions using analytics to augment their draft prep. I'm sure this guy Fitterer's experience with integrating analytics into the draft prep process was a selling point for someone like Tepper, and Rhule, since it was Rhule that wanted the Sports Science department when he first got here. 

[ellis]

1 hour ago, Moo Daeng said:

What do you mean by that? How is transparent analysis important?

No, not sensitive data or processes. Just give that team of staffers a little more visability. I wouldn’t deem this a critical item to be handled ASAP, and I take a very balanced approach with analytics. But, if Tepper is going to continue to talk about it, perhaps there should be more than one data person featured in the media guide. 

The larger point is it would serve them well from a PR perspective, and it would serve good reporters, to offer some clarity of roles. To be fair, they’ll have an opportunity to do this pretty soon. And, to be fair, they have no obligation to do it. That’s one of the great perks of being a billionaire. You can do whatever the hell you want. Just making an observation.

[Mr. Scot]

15 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Tepper wouldn't have hired him if he wasn't fluent in analytics...

...you can be assured he is.  

They have analytics in their process, same as a lot of teams these days. But again (as Ellis pointed out) Fitterer is far from being an analytics guy. He's a scout, has been for over 20 years, and pretty much everybody that talks about him praises him for his evaluation skills.

I get that you really want to be right about stuff, but you weren't right about this, and you can't change the facts to try to make you wrong predictions sound right.

Frankly, it's kind of a silly thing to be butthurt over.

[ellis]

22 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

I don't want my analytics being transparent at all. It's proprietary information. My company exists because of our specific approach to analysis. Transparency is not the goal.

 No, I completely agree with proprietary information. I’m not suggesting a drill down into processes from an outside person. Visibility, as in “who are your data analytics people”, “what are their titles”, “are there possibilities for media avails”...that kind of stuff.

Certain teams feature their research teams more prominently than others. I’m not even a far leaning analytics guy. If Tep is serious about being a leader in that area, I think that’s great. But people will continue to question it until they see a basic structure of how that side of the operation looks. Just a basic org chart, not proprietary info.

[ellis]

The analytics part was one small element of a bigger discussion, but I appreciate your perspective and I certainly understand it.

Tepper is giving Matt all the resources. I mean, from the initial contract (6th highest in the NFL at signing), to hiring his own staff (even most of his Baylor guys), with the freedom to go 2-3 years deep with  Bridgewater. 

Going with the scouting specialist for general manager is a good choice, but when you read the owners comments from over the past few months, not sure if that would’ve been his first preference. 

Then again, maybe you make that many billions by keeping everybody running in circles. When it starts yielding meaningful wins on the field, I’ll be the first to congratulate the approach. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, ellis said:

Going with the scouting specialist for general manager is a good choice, but when you read the owners comments from over the past few months, not sure if that would’ve been his first preference. 

Same when you look at the candidate list. Some of the guys were definitely Tepper choices, but the final four were all longtime scouts.

Add in that of the Tepper choices, one or two were real head scratchers. Seriously, is anybody else looking to interview Brandt Tilis or Nick Matteo for their GM job? You ask those guys but ignore Mike Borgonzi and Joe Hortiz? Oy...

[SizzleBuzz]

36 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They have analytics in their process, same as a lot of teams these days. But again (as Ellis pointed out) Fitterer is far from being an analytics guy. He's a scout, has been for over 20 years, and pretty much everybody that talks about him praises him for his evaluation skills.

I get that you really want to be right about stuff, but you weren't right about this, and you can't change the facts to try to make you wrong predictions sound right.

Frankly, it's kind of a silly thing to be butthurt over.

It's not an either/or proposition.

Fitterer is fluent in analytics. 

Over/under on your Friday post count = 65...

...taking the over.

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

It's not an either/or proposition.

Fitterer is fluent in analytics. 

Over/under on your Friday post count = 65...

...taking the over.

You don't know anything about Fitterer, dude.

You're talking about how you want it to be, but that has no effect on reality.

[SizzleBuzz]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

You don't know anything about Fitterer, dude.

You're talking about how you want it to be, but that has no effect on reality.

Fluent...an expert if you will. 

We at 40+ yet?

[SizzleBuzz]

5 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

You don't know anything about Fitterer, dude.

You're talking about how you want it to be, but that has no effect on reality.

Fluent...an expert if you will. 

We at 40+ yet?

That was an easy win.

95 posts and still 3-hours to go...

...dauum!

[Beerfacedlegend]

I hate this move until they prove otherwise