T Lance film and write up

[Moo Daeng]

18 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Josh Allen was a career 56.2% passer. Trey Lance is a 67.0% career passer.

I am not saying that he doesn't have some things to work on but the accuracy issues seem to be extremely overblown. For reference, Carson Wentz was a 64.2% career passer at NDSU.

The analysts who mention his accuracy aren't necessarily talking about his completion percentage. They are referring to ball placement. His receivers are very commonly wide open. When they aren't placement matters a lot more.

Edited February 28, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

The analysts who mention his accuracy aren't necessarily talking about his completion percentage. They are referring to ball placement when his receivers aren't wide open by 5 plus yards. That seems to be common. 

I see many analysts list accuracy as a strength for Lance.

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/scouting-trey-lance-north-dakota-state-qb-similar-to-andrew-luck
 

https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2021TLance.php
 

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/platform/amp/2021/2/25/22297570/2021-nfl-scouting-report-north-dakota-state-qb-trey-lance
 

just to show a few.  Looks like his footwork does need some work, which could make the ball sail on some throws, but that happens to most QBs as long as it’s not a regular thing.

[Moo Daeng]

9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I see many analysts list accuracy as a strength for Lance.

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/scouting-trey-lance-north-dakota-state-qb-similar-to-andrew-luck
 

https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2021TLance.php
 

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/platform/amp/2021/2/25/22297570/2021-nfl-scouting-report-north-dakota-state-qb-trey-lance
 

just to show a few.  Looks like his footwork does need some work, which could make the ball sail on some throws, but that happens to most QBs as long as it’s not a regular thing.

I see them saying both. My point wasn't to judge his accuracy. It was to point out what the actual discussion of his accuracy is.

 

Edited February 28, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[ForJimmy]

2 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

I see them saying both. My point wasn't to judge his accuracy. It was to point out what the actual discussion of his accuracy is.

 

Yeah and he is a really tough prospect to analyze. It would be nice to see if his footwork/accuracy looked better or worse in his second year as a starter....

[Moo Daeng]

Heard another reference to him expected to go 15-32. If we could trade back and get him I'm happy.

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Heard another reference to him expected to go 15-32. If we could trade back and get him I'm happy.

L-O-L!!!!!!!! If you honestly believe that, then you need to dig into the draft a little deeper than just talking about it.  I will quit this MB for good if this happens.  Please tag it, screen shot it or do whatever you need to do to mark it down.  Question is, would you do the same?  That's how confident I am that is 100% bulls!t.

[saX man]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

L-O-L!!!!!!!! If you honestly believe that, then you need to dig into the draft a little deeper than just talking about it.  I will quit this MB for good if this happens.  Please tag it, screen shot it or do whatever you need to do to mark it down.  Question is, would you do the same?  That's how confident I am that is 100% bulls!t.

So my question: Are you endorsing Trey Lance?

[45catfan]

4 minutes ago, saX man said:

So my question: Are you endorsing Trey Lance?

Yep, I've even changed my avatar.  I've been on the bandwagon for a year now.  He was my target for this year this time LAST February. 

[45catfan]

I guess someone got Trey and Fields confused.

Fields to Steelers.........................................................(at#24)

[saX man]

15 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Yep, I've even changed my avatar.  I've been on the bandwagon for a year now.  He was my target for this year this time LAST February. 

No way! noice.

[kungfoodude]

10 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

The analysts who mention his accuracy aren't necessarily talking about his completion percentage. They are referring to ball placement. His receivers are very commonly wide open. When they aren't placement matters a lot more.

This is the same shade tbrown at Mac Jones, although his(Jones) placement is more consistent even with both throwing to a lot of wide open guys.

My point being that the narrative of him being an inaccurate passer is simply not true. He definitely has some mechanical issues to work on but those are fixable. 

 

[DeAngelo Beason]

Just not feeling it with this guy at all.  We tried Cam Newton already.  It went (maybe) a little above average at best.

[kungfoodude]

14 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Heard another reference to him expected to go 15-32. If we could trade back and get him I'm happy.

I have heard multiple people say he has a second round grade(The Draft Network analysts being one source). 

But I would be surprised if he doesn't get taken in the top 10. The QB desperation is so great he will get drafted ahead of his grade.

[Moo Daeng]

12 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

This is the same shade tbrown at Mac Jones, although his(Jones) placement is more consistent even with both throwing to a lot of wide open guys.

My point being that the narrative of him being an inaccurate passer is simply not true. He definitely has some mechanical issues to work on but those are fixable. 

 

Where there's smoke there might be fire. There's just too much info like this to blow it off.

https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/article/qb-klassroom/quantifying-quarterbacks-trey-lance