Luke Kuechly: Teddy Bridgewater 'understands it's a performance-based business'

[rippadonn]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If we draft a new QB, why would we start Grier? So we can get a top 5 pick to take another QB in 2022? 

I am not seeing the logic here.

The new QB has to win the job.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, rippadonn said:

The new QB has to win the job.

That still makes your statement strange. I thought you said Trask was the best QB in this draft? How is that the case if he can't beat out a career #3 QB?

[rippadonn]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

That still makes your statement strange. I thought you said Trask was the best QB in this draft? How is that the case if he can't beat out a career #3 QB?

It's a formal matter.

[rippadonn]

Rhule said you've got to earn it.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

It's a formal matter.

 

2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Rhule said you've got to earn it.

I am somehow more confused about your stance than when I initially asked. 

 

[rippadonn]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

 

I am somehow more confused about your stance than when I initially asked. 

 

You "win" if Grier starts, like he should have last year. You "win" if Kyle Trask balls out.

I think I know what may happen but that's football.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

You "win" if Grier starts, like he should have last year. You "win" if Kyle Trask balls out.

I think I know what may happen but that's football.

Soooo....are you saying Will Grier is the answer or that we "win" by being a top 5 pick?? 

[rippadonn]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Soooo....are you saying Will Grier is the answer or that we "win" by being a top 5 pick?? 

Exactly!

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Soooo....are you saying Will Grier is the answer or that we "win" by being a top 5 pick?? 

My advice...

Punt.

[kungfoodude]

32 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Exactly!

Yeah but I gave you an "or" statement. We already know that Grier isn't the guy. That's extremely obvious. So you want a top 5 pick? 

[onmyown]

5 hours ago, blueandblackattack said:

That's the pot calling the kettle black. Some of you really should learn how to use Google an check your facts first.

The floor price for a starting quarterback is around $20m according to Spotrac https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/

Teddy ranks only 16th in average salary, and the only ones below him are Rothlisburger(after a huge restructuring), backups and qb's still under their rookie deal.

$20m might have been top 5 money 10 years ago, but thats just the floor these days. It's called inflation.

We took a calculated gamble because he was familiar with the system Brady was installing, and did well in it the year prior going 5-0. It didn't work. Life sucks, get over it.

You can cry in your beers all you want, but some of you armchair GM's need to check your facts first and start looking at the team long term.

Bridgewater has a voidable year after this year, and we're about 1 year away from being a complete team. But the bricks are being put in their place, and theres a light at the end of the tunnel.

I know it's hard to be patient when your definition of success is a Superbowl or we're trash, so you might wanna start lowering your expectations and get with the process, otherwise you're always gonna be disappointed.

Exactly. He’s paid where exactly he is ranked in starting QBs. We got what we paid for, where is the confusion? 

And it’s 40 million, not 60. Whenever someone starts off with completely ignoring the fact 33% of his money and contract is an option you know they’re being melodramatic.

Anyone thinking we’d get elite QB play for 20 million a year (half of what elite QBs get), on a two year deal is delusional.

Get over it, a failed QB attempt, but he was clearly a bridge in the first place. He has 1 year left.

[rippadonn]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but I gave you an "or" statement. We already know that Grier isn't the guy. That's extremely obvious. So you want a top 5 pick? 

I believe they can get a franchise QB later this year in Kyle Trask. Herbert was my bandwagon last year, me and Marty. I've already said here that Trask is the value pick. Instead of mortgaging the future on a player that ain't yours and may never be yours, and publicly thirsting for a Teddy replacement to no avail, perhaps picking Pitts or BPA and perhaps moving up into later in the first and getting a QB that has outperformed his much/over hyped and lesser performing peers, may be a more rational approach as opposed to the dramatic.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, rippadonn said:

I believe they can get a franchise QB later this year in Kyle Trask. Herbert was my bandwagon last year, me and Marty. I've already said here that Trask is the value pick. Instead of mortgaging the future on a player that ain't yours and may never be yours, and publicly thirsting for a Teddy replacement to no avail, perhaps picking Pitts or BPA and perhaps moving up into later in the first and getting a QB that has outperformed his much/over hyped and lesser performing peers, may be a more rational approach as opposed to the dramatic.

I am struggling with your logic train, though. You say draft Trask in the second, then to start Grier over him to get a top 5 pick in the 2022 Draft. 

If Trask is that good(and your Trask-crush is well documented at this point) then why in the world would it make sense to start a 3rd string QB over him? 

I just can't really follow what you think we should do. It's all over the map.

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Exactly. He’s paid where exactly he is ranked in starting QBs. We got what we paid for, where is the confusion? 

And it’s 40 million, not 60. Whenever someone starts off with completely ignoring the fact 33% of his money and contract is an option you know they’re being melodramatic.

Anyone thinking we’d get elite QB play for 20 million a year (half of what elite QBs get), on a two year deal is delusional.

Get over it, a failed QB attempt, but he was clearly a bridge in the first place. He has 1 year left.

He's the 8th best QB in the NFL?????? 

How does that work exactly?