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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am concerned the biggest issue is that either we just don't consider OL a major priority(yet) or our franchise simply does not evaluate them very well.

There aren't many explanations for why we have made the moves we have made the past two seasons(or the past decade). I guess we'll find out what the story is the next couple of seasons.

Paying Moton was a good start as well as drafting Christensen and Brown. Let’s hope we further address it next offseason. We seemed really fixated on fixing the defense these past two…

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

I am concerned the biggest issue is that either we just don't consider OL a major priority(yet) or our franchise simply does not evaluate them very well.

There aren't many explanations for why we have made the moves we have made the past two seasons(or the past decade). I guess we'll find out what the story is the next couple of seasons.

Option 3 is they do value it and see it as a priority but have only had 2 drafts and shitty FA leftovers to comb through. 

There are many priorities to address and the offensive line is in the top 2.  We still don't know if number one is fixed and Detroit screwed us out of our LT target so they followed their board and added talent wherever they could. 

Pretty simple actually. 

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2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Paying Moton was a good start as well as drafting Christensen and Brown. Let’s hope we further address it next offseason. We seemed really fixated on fixing the defense these past two…

Paying Moton was a good start. Drafting BC and Brown are TBD. They may prove to make our FO/staff look like geniuses or be further evidence they don't have any clue how to evaluate offensive lineman. We'll know in the next couple of seasons.

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3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Option 3 is they do value it and see it as a priority but have only had 2 drafts and shitty FA leftovers to comb through. 

There are many priorities to address and the offensive line is in the top 2.  We still don't know if number one is fixed and Detroit screwed us out of our LT target so they followed their board and added talent wherever they could. 

Pretty simple actually. 

Maybe. The future will tell us how they feel. Another season of neglect and it will probably be as much info as we need to say otherwise.

Perhaps OL is literally just low on their list of priorities and we will get to it eventually. Not the way I would ever build a football team but it is what it is if we end up where we need to in the end.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Paying Moton was a good start. Drafting BC and Brown are TBD. They may prove to make our FO/staff look like geniuses or be further evidence they don't have any clue how to evaluate offensive lineman. We'll know in the next couple of seasons.

Fair, but at least they are drafting young talent and not completely ignoring it. TC was a 3rd rounder I believe. I hope he can work his way into the lineup soon so we can at least see what we have in him.

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Paying Moton was a good start. Drafting BC and Brown are TBD. They may prove to make our FO/staff look like geniuses or be further evidence they don't have any clue how to evaluate offensive lineman. We'll know in the next couple of seasons.

Every team struggles to find talented olinemen, that's not unique to the Panthers. At worst they got 2 serviceable young guards in one draft.  Give time man. Fitt just started cooking.

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Fair, but at least they are drafting young talent and not completely ignoring it. TC was a 3rd rounder I believe. I hope he can work his way into the lineup soon so we can at least see what we have in him.

I wouldn't say "ignoring" I would say largely dumpster diving at the moment(FA and the draft). That's certainly one strategy but it's a more difficult path to follow to get where you want to be. 

Hey, it's possible they are hip to things the rest of the league isn't and these are All-Pro guys. We will see.

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3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Every team struggles to find talented olinemen, that's not unique to the Panthers. At worst they got 2 serviceable young guards in one draft.  Give time man. Fitt just started cooking.

I have no idea if they are serviceable or not. They have a combined 0 offensive snaps in the NFL so far. 

I get that it's always a struggle to build a line but we struggle more than most, IMO. I would like to eventually end that. We have had good and great offensive lines in our franchise history. 

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I wouldn't say "ignoring" I would say largely dumpster diving at the moment(FA and the draft). That's certainly one strategy but it's a more difficult path to follow to get where you want to be. 

Hey, it's possible they are hip to things the rest of the league isn't and these are All-Pro guys. We will see.

I mean there hasn’t been much available with giving up capital which we desperately need right now. I think we would have drafted Sewell if he dropped to us and just weren’t that high on Slater. Outside of that we would have been reaching or trading away picks to get one. We got TC at a good spot for value. Erving didn’t look terrible Sunday either, or maybe Elf was just so bad he made Erving look decent….

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I have no idea if they are serviceable or not. They have a combined 0 offensive snaps in the NFL so far. 

I get that it's always a struggle to build a line but we struggle more than most, IMO. I would like to eventually end that. We have had good and great offensive lines in our franchise history. 

We all would like that my friend.  It's just not going to magically happen in one offseason.  That's is all our current GM has had to address it.  

No rookie has had their first start until they do.  I cannot imagine these two rookies will be worse than what's been demonstrated so far.  Of that I'm sure.  

I'm just not ready to admit defeat after one draft.

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We all would like that my friend.  It's just not going to magically happen in one offseason.  That's is all our current GM has had to address it.  

No rookie has had their first start until they do.  I cannot imagine these two rookies will be worse than what's been demonstrated so far.  Of that I'm sure.  

I'm just not ready to admit defeat after one draft.

I wouldn't say I am admitting defeat. Just generally perplexed by what their actual plan is for the OL. I can see the plan for other areas of the team but the OL I just can’t(outside the Moton signing). 

Let's hope it all works out.

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