New Franchise Team Level Reset

[Knaakedup]

I just saw the quote about Tepper having Rhule's back and showing him "nothing but confidence about me and the future moving forward" and it has honestly made me feel like the guy from the Jags Gif. This can't be real life, can it? How can you possibly look at what has been done thus far and feel confident about things moving forward?

Every single move that has been made has been the wrong move, and borderline catastrophic. I do not see any way that Rhule can turn this around to make things look good next year. It would require a perfect move for every single draft pick, FA acquisition, scheme implementation, JUST to get back to the level of what he inherited. 

We have nothing close to a cornerstone player like we have had in the past to get through these low times where we knew they would turn the corner soon, or a franchise QB drafted that is being groomed. Nobody similar to a Luke, Cam, Olsen, Davis, etc. We have an overpaid, broken RB with no OL and a lot of defensive players that schematically do not fit this style of defense.

Burns? He has no business being a 4-3 DE, he just doesn't have the size. He would kill it as a 3-4 LB.

Chinn? Probably great? But that requires putting him in position to play to his abilities, which we know will not happen here. Instead, we move him around to places to make up for lack of talent which neutralizes all the special things about him.

CBs? We have a ton of rentals and they're all going to want to get paid. See ya Jackson, see ya Gilmore, see ya Henderson, see ya Bouye. 

WRs? Moore has another 1000 yard receiving season, cool. But he doesn't pass the eye test for me as a true #1. I can't remember a single time he had a Smitty moment and just took a game over. Robby? GTFOH. Our most sure handed guys this year have been Erickson and Zylstra lol. 

QBs? We've ruined our Franchise QB. Twice. And embarrassed him nationally. Trotting Sam out there again next year is the most insufferable thing this franchise could ever do, yet it feels like it is absolutely going to happen. We have nobody else waiting in the wings being groomed. 

The level of ineptitude that our college coach has brought in to this team is going to leave a stain on us for probably 5 more years. We have reached new franchise team level rebuild, where we don't just need to get new coaches, but we need new EVERYTHING. Zero cornerstone players. Nothing to look forward to. The draft this year is already shot. 

Been a fan since the teams inception, gone through the Siefert year, Clausen year, few other rough years, but they all had one thing in common and that was knowing that it would be better next year and big changes were incoming. I've never experienced this level of low with the Panthers before. Not even sure how to support this.

The panthers are like my illegitimate step child a thousand miles away struggling with addiction - I want the best for them, but seeing them do this to themselves and seemingly continue to go down this path makes me want to either surprise them with an intervention or I need to distance myself from them for my own well being. 

Thats the end of my rant, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. 

"This is so demoralizing, how do I enter the fan transfer portal?" - Panthers Fans 2021

[LinvilleGorge]

It doesn't matter, man. This franchise is stuck in doormat territory as long as Rhule is here. The only question that remains is how deep of a hole is he going to dig?

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It doesn't matter, man. This franchise is stuck in doormat territory as long as Rhule is here. The only question that remains is how deep of a hole is he going to dig?

We HOPE it's a Rhule problem. If it is a Tepper problem....

[DeeJay]

Lets lose by 70 on sunday so tepper can leave rhule in new orleans

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We HOPE it's a Rhule problem. If it is a Tepper problem....

If Rhule stays it IS a Tepper problem.

[Knaakedup]

15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It doesn't matter, man. This franchise is stuck in doormat territory as long as Rhule is here. The only question that remains is how deep of a hole is he going to dig?

That's the scary part. I didn't think it could get this low, but the idea of retaining Rhule and trotting Sam out there again week 1 next year makes me full body cringe. 

[shaq]

Am I the only one thinking this is a bit of an overreaction? Also the “rentals” at corner is just false information, Bouye and Henderson will be here next year. Team needs legit help, our o line is a disaster and our coaching has been poor. If you fix those two factors this is a real playoff team.

[Knaakedup]

11 minutes ago, shaq said:

Am I the only one thinking this is a bit of an overreaction? Also the “rentals” at corner is just false information, Bouye and Henderson will be here next year. Team needs legit help, our o line is a disaster and our coaching has been poor. If you fix those two factors this is a real playoff team.

How do you figure this is a real playoff team? That seems more of an overreaction to me. Even if you fix the OL, you think Sam is taking us to the playoffs? Not a chance. Everything on this team is broken and we are waaaaaay way off from the Playoffs. 

[LinvilleGorge]

15 minutes ago, shaq said:

Am I the only one thinking this is a bit of an overreaction? Also the “rentals” at corner is just false information, Bouye and Henderson will be here next year. Team needs legit help, our o line is a disaster and our coaching has been poor. If you fix those two factors this is a real playoff team.

This is why it's not an overreaction. There's no indication this is going to get fixed.

[shaq]

Just now, Knaakedup said:

How do you figure this is a real playoff team? That seems more of an overreaction to me. Even if you fix the OL, you think Sam is taking us to the playoffs? Not a chance. Everything on this team is broken and we are waaaaaay way off from the Playoffs. 

This right here is also an overreaction. I don’t even know if it’s fair to evaluate any single quarterback on this roster, are we watching the same game? The QBS are literally getting zero time in the pocket, not even enough time to even get the ball out on most plays. “Everything on this team is broken” dude our defense has given up the second least amount of yards and has genuinely and undoubtedly played great this season even given the fact that our o line turns the ball over and literally can’t move downfield every drive. Shaq Thompson looks special out there I love seeing that guy play every week, our defense is young and talented. We need a new coach I couldn’t agree more we’re literally just a team of college coach’s. With a new coach and entirely new coaching staff I’m still interested and optimistic in what this squad can produce.

[rayzor]

You can't fix the coaching and not fire Rhule.

He's a life coach, not a football coach.

Being a life coach might be enough for kids in college, but NFL requires X's and O's guys.

[shaq]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is why it's not an overreaction. There's no indication this is going to get fixed.

I understand that point but have you seen what people have been posting? Rhule needs to be fired obviously. But to say everything about this team sucks is with zero doubt an overreaction. I know we’re all upset here but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

[Knaakedup]

2 minutes ago, shaq said:

This right here is also an overreaction. I don’t even know if it’s fair to evaluate any single quarterback on this roster, are we watching the same game? The QBS are literally getting zero time in the pocket, not even enough time to even get the ball out on most plays. “Everything on this team is broken” dude our defense has given up the second least amount of yards and has genuinely and undoubtedly played great this season even given the fact that our o line turns the ball over and literally can’t move downfield every drive. Shaq Thompson looks special out there I love seeing that guy play every week, our defense is young and talented. We need a new coach I couldn’t agree more we’re literally just a team of college coach’s. With a new coach and entirely new coaching staff I’m still interested and optimistic in what this squad can produce.

We will agree to disagree then. It all starts at the top and has a trickle down effect. Putting continued blind faith into a regime that has made us take steps backwards and cost us draft capital in the process is why it's all a disaster.

Not only that, but I will knife fight you in a dojo about our QB situation. Sam Darnold is ass. Will always be ass. No OL is going to change him from being ass. A decent OL doesn't stop you from crying on the sidelines when you throw an interception duck. 

[4Corners]

I know one thing about pro sports - anytime the team owner or team GM gives a head coach the “vote of confidence” …..it’s usually the kiss of death. 
 

Hopefully it’s Tepper playing the part of Michael and Ruhle playing the part of Fredo.