After today, everyone should understand you need a QB

[Growl]

2 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

I get it. I wanted fields or move up for Lance this past year. 
 

I just don’t trust this staff to pick the right guy is all.

even if it flounders it’s far more conducive to your long term success to have josh Rosen lead you to kyler Murray than to have a parade of 1st round picks spent elsewhere 

i mean don’t get me wrong, the quality of the product was better when it was a team game. But it really isn’t anymore, not in the way it used to be.

[TheRumGone]

1 minute ago, Growl said:

even if it flounders it’s far more conducive to your long term success to have josh Rosen lead you to kyler Murray than to have a parade of 1st round picks spent elsewhere 

i mean don’t get me wrong, the quality of the product was better when it was a team game. But it really isn’t anymore, not in the way it used to be.

If we’re throwing darts at the board as far as qbs I take Malik with a coach like Hackett. Dude has all the talent in the world just needs to be coached up.

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's a HUGE concern though. Especially coming off an injury that may lead to never getting back to 100%.

I'm not bring petty. You're being unrealistic and extraordinarily revisionist.

Drafting a QB #5 with medical flags actually speaks to how well thought of Tua was.   Remember, he went just ahead of Herbert who had no medical red flags.  Ron took Chase young (defensive junky), The Lions were still all-in on Stafford, the Giants had just drafted Jones the year prior.  Had there been a need, Tua and Herbert could actually have gone higher.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, TheRumGone said:

If we’re throwing darts at the board as far as qbs I take Malik with a coach like Hackett. Dude has all the talent in the world just needs to be coached up.

If we pick him at 6........Jesus Christ.    If we were to trade down and get more picks I wouldnt cry picking him in the late teens only if we got a poo ton of picks for #6.  Straight picking him at 6 with no intention of playing him is retarded at the very best

[TheRumGone]

3 minutes ago, Growl said:

even if it flounders it’s far more conducive to your long term success to have josh Rosen lead you to kyler Murray than to have a parade of 1st round picks spent elsewhere 

i mean don’t get me wrong, the quality of the product was better when it was a team game. But it really isn’t anymore, not in the way it used to be.

Also another thought is Darnold is that Rosen that can lead us to a kyler Murray. Why not just roll with him, draft a blue chip lineman? Something to think about.

[Growl]

8 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

If we’re throwing darts at the board as far as qbs I take Malik with a coach like Hackett. Dude has all the talent in the world just needs to be coached up.

I’m waiting to see who the OC is before i start gravitating to anyone.

pickett’s got a lot of starts, could weather some bad coaching for a season. If I like the choice at OC, I may be willing to stretch a bit more.

Edited January 16, 2022 by Growl

[LinvilleGorge]

Willis, Zappe, and Strong are who I'm most interested in seeing Senior Bowl week.

[TheRumGone]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

If we pick him at 6........Jesus Christ.    If we were to trade down and get more picks I wouldnt cry picking him in the late teens only if we got a poo ton of picks for #6.  Straight picking him at 6 with no intention of playing him is retarded at the very best

This next season is fuged regardless. I said if I had to pick a qb at six it would be Malik with the plan to get a new staff to groom him. If rhule is longterm here no way would I want him grooming Malik. 

[firefox1234]

4 minutes ago, Growl said:

even if it flounders it’s far more conducive to your long term success to have josh Rosen lead you to kyler Murray than to have a parade of 1st round picks spent elsewhere 

i mean don’t get me wrong, the quality of the product was better when it was a team game. But it really isn’t anymore, not in the way it used to be.

In the long term especially with the rookie salary cap it’s cheaper to use your first rd. picks at QBs vs what we have done with trading picks and wasting salary cap on Teddy and Darnold.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Growl said:

I’m waiting to see who the OC is before o start gravitating to anyone.

picketts got a lot of starts, could weather some bad coaching for a season. If I like the choice at OC, I may be willing to stretch a bit more.

I don't care who the OC is. He's probably one and done anyway. 

[TheRumGone]

1 minute ago, Growl said:

I’m waiting to see who the OC is before o start gravitating to anyone.

picketts got a lot of starts, could weather some bad coaching for a season. If I like the choice at OC, I may be willing to stretch a bit more.

Good point.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Also another thought is Darnold is that Rosen that can lead us to a kyler Murray. Why not just roll with him, draft a blue chip lineman? Something to think about.

Thats the plan

[Growl]

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

Also another thought is Darnold is that Rosen that can lead us to a kyler Murray. Why not just roll with him, draft a blue chip lineman? Something to think about.

I mean we tried that. Now we’re talking about improving the roster around darnold a bit more and hoping things get worse.

and of course you’re still discounting a valuable and plausible opportunity at finding a franchise guy. Seems kind of bird in hand to me.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, firefox1234 said:

In the long term especially with the rookie salary cap it’s cheaper to use your first rd. picks at QBs vs what we have done with trading picks and wasting salary cap on Teddy and Darnold.

A franchise QB on a rookie contract is the biggest cheat code in today's NFL.