Do whatever it takes to get deshaun Watson

[RIPTreyLance]

It is simple. I said what I said 

[CashNewton22]

No.

[RIPTreyLance]

3 minutes ago, CashNewton22 said:

No.

We will continue to be a losing franchise then 

[ForJimmy]

18 minutes ago, RIPTreyLance said:

We will continue to be a losing franchise then 

Because we won so much with prime Cam? 

[Panthers4real]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

Because we won so much with prime Cam? 

Not the best comparison, but if we are going there he took us to our second ever SB since 03, which between the nfl manning agenda and Rivera we should have won. 

[Khyber53]

fug no.

Let him take care of his legal issues first. All of them. And then get some counseling. And then get back into football shape. Then prove that contracts mean something to him by playing a season for the Texans before screaming for a trade.

The guy did shitty things to women, to his team, his teammates and their fans. Let ol' Handjobs and Histrionics sit there in Houston. 

[xPariahx]

why do we need this thread?

[Jon Snow]

9 minutes ago, stbugs said:

4 out 5 playoff appearances with 3 division titles and a SB appearance in years 3-7 (was his prime) is winning. 51-28-1 is a little better than 10-6 every year.

0 back to back winning seasons. Don't leave that out.

[ForJimmy]

8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

4 out 5 playoff appearances with 3 division titles and a SB appearance in years 3-7 (was his prime) is winning. 51-28-1 is a little better than 10-6 every year.

And 0 back to back winning seasons and an early ending to his career because we never gave him an OL. One of the reasons we have never won a SB. Now imagine Cam with ZERO draft picks the next 2-3 years.

[rayzor]

It will never be worth it. It will never be worth the cost.

[ForJimmy]

25 minutes ago, Panthers4real said:

Not the best comparison, but if we are going there he took us to our second ever SB since 03, which between the nfl manning agenda and Rivera we should have won. 

Yeah basically no better than when we had Jake with a loaded team. Now take away our 1-3rd round picks the next 2-3 years and cripple our salary cap and see how it looks. Hell we couldn’t even have back to back winning seasons then…

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

0 back to back winning seasons. Don't leave that out.

Right? They are over there pitching it like it was some dynasty. One incredible year 15-1 and then we fell into the playoffs at 7-9 with as you stated no back to back winning seasons. How would be even build an OL around Watson with no cap space or picks? He will get get injured…

[Jon Snow]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

Right? They are over there pitching it like it was some dynasty. One incredible year 15-1 and then we fell into the playoffs at 7-9 with as you stated no back to back winning seasons. How would be even build an OL around Watson with no cap space or picks? He will get get injured…

It's a horrible idea to even consider.  

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

And? Cam’s prime had 51 wins in 5 years with 4 playoff appearances. There’s no other way to define that except winning.

We've had 23 losses in the past two years. We had 28 losses in 5 years from 2013-2017. We are so shell shocked by the Tepper era that we can’t even look back fondly at 2011-2017. We found our QB and Luke and had stuff to watch after week 17 in 4 out of 5 years. 2015 ended terribly but it was a fuging fun ride most fans never get to experience. I even got 4 amazing autographed Steph Curry pictures from his trainer who’s son played on my son’s bball team. He even signed them while watching us throttle the Cardinals to go to the SB and my wife and I watched in a pub at a Sandals Resort. That’s winning in my book. That’s also why the past few years have just sucked so hard.

Of course those were fun times, were. It's history and it's about to be flushed away by throwing everything away, including their integrity to acquire a player that shouldn't even be in the league.