There should be no issue with Watson waiving his trade clause per ESPN.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

Its plausible, because if we are trading players in return on this deal and not just draft picks, that creates space as well. No telling who it will be, and there isnt mant options that would give us a shitload of money back, but with one or two more restructures and traded player(s)... D Watson and Armstead could happen. It will take some fancy money moves by Samir

Didnt mean to confuse you, I was just stating that the weighted portion of the contract is paid for. So we could extend his deal and spread the numbers out if we end up landing him.

He probably is going to want a raise if we extend him given the current climate of qb deals.   Also it really doesnt matter if the guaranteed part is paid because we are not going to cut him down the road if we trade for him.  His salary is still going to go against our cap

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

you have to consider the players we are giving to the texans in the trade too. According to that article, we are in financial shape to make this happen. We still have about 4-5 options on the roster to restructure as well

The article stats we are not in financial shape yet to add his contract.  We still have work to do but its possible but the main point is its not going to be possible to add both watson and TA

[jayboogieman]

52 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Younger known players on rookie contracts are more valuable than first round picks. Because it’s a known quantity vs unknown.

Not if those young players don't fit your scheme or are on the last year of their rookie deals. Having a promising young prospect that you think fits your needs for 3-5 years on a cheap deal beats having a guy that is basically a one year rental.

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He probably is going to want a raise if we extend him given the current climate of qb deals.   Also it really doesnt matter if the guaranteed part is paid because we are not going to cut him down the road if we trade for him.  His salary is still going to go against our cap

A raise? he is already being paid as a top5 QB, and he hasnt played in over a year. He wont want a raise, he will just want a chance to make good money and play football. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

A raise? he is already being paid as a top5 QB, and he hasnt played in over a year. He wont want a raise, he will just want a chance to make good money and play football. 

If we extend him he is most certainly going to want to rework his deal.  He is not going to extend it with the current numbers.  Why would he do that?

[TheCasillas]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

The article stats we are not in financial shape yet to add his contract.  We still have work to do but its possible but the main point is its not going to be possible to add both watson and TA

The article is pretty optimisitic, and we just restructured another contract moments ago. If there is a  player involved in the trade from our side, we dont need to move any more money around . 

The Panthers, with only about $31 million in cap space and only about $13 million to use toward free agency, can create enough space to make that work.

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

A raise? he is already being paid as a top5 QB, and he hasnt played in over a year. He wont want a raise, he will just want a chance to make good money and play football. 

Lol that dude is rambling some incoherent mess all over these threads. Laughable. 

[TheCasillas]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

If we extend him he is most certainly going to want to rework his deal.  He is not going to extend it with the current numbers.  Why would he do that?

To turn it into gauranteed money.....

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

The article is pretty optimisitic, and we just restructured another contract moments ago. If there is a  player involved in the trade from our side, we dont need to move any more money around . 

The Panthers, with only about $31 million in cap space and only about $13 million to use toward free agency, can create enough space to make that work.

Right so its going to be tight as it is to get the number to work for watson its going to be impossible to make the TA contract fit

[jayboogieman]

43 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Because not having a franchise QB for all but 5 seasons in our history has worked out so well for us 

That's not a true statement at all. Cam was here for 9 seasons the first time and Jake was the franchise QB when he was here.

[jayboogieman]

40 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Top 5 Franchise qbs are not. 

Watson is not a top 5 QB at this time.

• Rogers
• Allen
• Herbert
• Mahomes
• Burrow
• Stafford

The above are all better than he is currently. Heck, you could argue that Murray, Prescott, Wilson, and Carr are also better than Watson too.

[uncfan888]

2 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Watson is not a top 5 QB at this time.

• Rogers
• Allen
• Herbert
• Mahomes
• Burrow
• Stafford

The above are all better than he is currently. Heck, you could argue that Murray, Prescott, Wilson, and Carr are also better than Watson too.

Lol

[jayboogieman]

Just now, uncfan888 said:

Lol

Just how many games did Watson play last season to prove he's a top 5 QB? Time doesn't hold still just because he didn't play and you want to claim he's top 5 based off 2-3 years ago.

[Tomcatn]

The Deshaun Watson cool aid needs to go away. He's not coming here.

Edited March 12, 2022 by Tomcatn