Colts get Gilmore. 2 years 23 mill. 14 guaranteed.

[KSpan]

20 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I understand the logic behind choosing Donte. Gilmore has limited time playing at a high level, unless he is able to make that Woodson switch to extend his career.

I can't fault the Panthers for paying Donte. IMO, he is always going to be a streaky player. However, he is also a ball hawk. Frankly, arguably the best the franchise has ever had at that specific thing.

If he can stay healthy, I think he will be a solid player for us for the length of his new contract.

They only got Donte for 3 years though, and I doubt he sees the third year of that deal one way or another. The age/timespan is a wash at best for that reason alone, and he's missed 10 games to Gilmore's 13 during the same timespan, and that's with Gilmore missing 8 last year when he probably could have played sooner if the team felt it necessary. With respect to being a ballhawk, Jackson has 4, 3, 3, and 2 picks during his years. While it is a higher per-game average than Gilmore, it's hardly lighting it up. For a team as young as Carolina is, particularly in the secondary, I just don't see Jackson and, as importantly, the contract they locked him into as a better option to Gilmore.

Now, the assumption is being made that Gilmore would have come back to Carolina at all. Perhaps he wasn't willing or it was going to take a lot more money to do it, we'll never know. 

[iamhubby1]

12 minutes ago, KSpan said:

They only got Donte for 3 years though, and I doubt he sees the third year of that deal one way or another. The age/timespan is a wash at best for that reason alone, and he's missed 10 games to Gilmore's 13 during the same timespan, and that's with Gilmore missing 8 last year when he probably could have played sooner if the team felt it necessary. With respect to being a ballhawk, Jackson has 4, 3, 3, and 2 picks during his years. While it is a higher per-game average than Gilmore, it's hardly lighting it up. For a team as young as Carolina is, particularly in the secondary, I just don't see Jackson and, as importantly, the contract they locked him into as a better option to Gilmore.

Now, the assumption is being made that Gilmore would have come back to Carolina at all. Perhaps he wasn't willing or it was going to take a lot more money to do it, we'll never know. 

 

We got Donte for about 8mil a year, for 3 years.

Gilmore was about 12mil a year, for 2 years.

 

We got a better deal on that one.

 

Also, what makes you say Donte won't see his 3rd year?

Edited April 15, 2022 by iamhubby1

[KSpan]

38 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

We got Donte for about 8mil a year, for 3 years.

Gilmore was about 12mil a year, for 2 years.

 

We got a better deal on that one.

 

Also, what makes you say Donte won't see his 3rd year?

That's not accurate. Donte's contract is 3 years, 35MM, just under 12 MM a year with $16MM guaranteed. It's the same contract as Gilmore with only one add'l year, and that year has a dead cap of only 3.3MM - it's structured to get out of at that point.

Again, this is all assuming that Gilmore would have come back on a similar deal as the Colts gave him. If he would though and the team is so sold on Jackson for longer due to age, maturity, whatever, then add more years.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/donte-jackson-25154/

Edited April 15, 2022 by KSpan

[iamhubby1]

1 hour ago, KSpan said:

That's not accurate. Donte's contract is 3 years, 35MM, just under 12 MM a year with $16MM guaranteed. It's the same contract as Gilmore with only one add'l year, and that year has a dead cap of only 3.3MM - it's structured to get out of at that point.

Again, this is all assuming that Gilmore would have come back on a similar deal as the Colts gave him. If he would though and the team is so sold on Jackson for longer due to age, maturity, whatever, then add more years.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/donte-jackson-25154/

 

Well, where did I get my number from? Sorry about that one. My bad

[Doc Holiday]

8 hours ago, DeSim said:

I’m sure we offered the same, if not more.  He just didn’t wanna come back. 

Tough to come back to a bad an situation

 

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, KSpan said:

They only got Donte for 3 years though, and I doubt he sees the third year of that deal one way or another. The age/timespan is a wash at best for that reason alone, and he's missed 10 games to Gilmore's 13 during the same timespan, and that's with Gilmore missing 8 last year when he probably could have played sooner if the team felt it necessary. With respect to being a ballhawk, Jackson has 4, 3, 3, and 2 picks during his years. While it is a higher per-game average than Gilmore, it's hardly lighting it up. For a team as young as Carolina is, particularly in the secondary, I just don't see Jackson and, as importantly, the contract they locked him into as a better option to Gilmore.

Now, the assumption is being made that Gilmore would have come back to Carolina at all. Perhaps he wasn't willing or it was going to take a lot more money to do it, we'll never know. 

I am fine with it just being a 3 year deal because if he does remain banged up, we can get out from under it. 

Donte is the better option looking towards the future if you are trying to build. Gilmore is a "win now" guy. They made a pretty logical decision and I also kind of doubt Gilmore particularly wanted to come back here unless it was at a specific price.