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12 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

So I like Baker and think he gives us the best chance to win but top 10 QB?

Who is he better than in the group listed below: Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady, Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Stafford, Wilson, Watson, Jackson, Prescott, Murray, and Carr.

 

I like your list but how can Watson be on it anymore? He hasn't played in forever and could be very rusty. May not play this year either who knows. Probably should drop him and out someone on there. I don't know who but someone else. As of today he has had more snaps at the massage parlor than on the field.

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5 minutes ago, YourLastThought said:

I like your list but how can Watson be on it anymore? He hasn't played in forever and could be very rusty. May not play this year either who knows. Probably should drop him and out someone on there. I don't know who but someone else. As of today he has had more snaps at the massage parlor than on the field.

He’ll certainly have some rust but when he’s on the field he’s shown to be a top 10 talent. It just really comes down to one’s perspective I guess… do you put him on the list and take him off if he fails or do you not include him on the list and put him on if he succeeds.

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33 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

He’ll certainly have some rust but when he’s on the field he’s shown to be a top 10 talent. It just really comes down to one’s perspective I guess… do you put him on the list and take him off if he fails or do you not include him on the list and put him on if he succeeds.

Between the rust and ongoing distraction in think he comes off until he proves otherwise. No disagreement on prior performance though.

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29 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

He’ll certainly have some rust but when he’s on the field he’s shown to be a top 10 talent. It just really comes down to one’s perspective I guess… do you put him on the list and take him off if he fails or do you not include him on the list and put him on if he succeeds.

Top 10? Honestly, more like top five (top three being the highpoint). That's why he commanded the money that he did. Houston was pretty bad for a couple of seasons, especially his last in 2020, and yet his numbers were off the charts. Drop him in that position, and in theory he'll stay top five at worst.

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17 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Top 10? Honestly, more like top five (top three being the highpoint). That's why he commanded the money that he did. Houston was pretty bad for a couple of seasons, especially his last in 2020, and yet his numbers were off the charts. Drop him in that position, and in theory he'll stay top five at worst.

2 thoughts. 1, How can a QB have great stats and the team only wins 4 games? Are they garbage yards and scores after the game is lost? Or don't he not have what it takes to win it at the end? It doesn't add up. Yes, the team was bad but to be that great of a QB, aren't you suppose to elevate the guys around you?

 

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6 hours ago, musicman said:

2 thoughts. 1, How can a QB have great stats and the team only wins 4 games? Are they garbage yards and scores after the game is lost? Or don't he not have what it takes to win it at the end? It doesn't add up. Yes, the team was bad but to be that great of a QB, aren't you suppose to elevate the guys around you?

 

He probably did elevate the guys around him to be honest (LOL). They were just that bad. 

I'm not saying it was this specific article that I read many months ago, but it will give you some perspective.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/06/with-great-stats-and-a-4-12-record-deshaun-watson-had-an-unprecedented-season/

Might have been this one (I can't remember). 

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/houston-texans-quarterback-deshaun-watson-was-the-nfls-best-quarterback-in-2020-pff-argues

Here's another one:

https://www.espn.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/25469/texans-cant-afford-any-more-wasted-seasons-for-deshaun-watson

 

Not gonna lie, I was skeptical of his play back then...until I began reading stuff like this.

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