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Panthers - Broncos open up 35.5 over/under


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8 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Even if Hackett is a complete dud and a goof, they can move on from him next year if they want.  They are absolutely stuck with a washed Russell Wilson though lol.  No refunds.

Yeah looks like earliest it would be practical to release him is 2025, when it will only* be an $18M dead cap hit, instead of paying him $55M lol. 2024 he's getting $35M no matter what

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3 hours ago, Peon Awesome said:

For all the hate about us committing $18.9 million on a 1 year extension for Darnold without seeing him play for us, it's nothing compared to the $250 million the Broncos gave Wilson before he had barely stepped foot in Denver.

I was in total shock at Fitt picking up that 5th year option on Sam. We couldn't have waited to see him play because the offer was time sensitive, but why make the offer at all? What had Sam accomplished? What about his play appeared worthy of that kind of money? I was asking these questions at the time. I said Sam was a proven loser. Fitt looked at it as a cost saving measure for when Sam blew up and solidified himself as our franchise QB. We'd have him locked into a great deal for us. That's how off they were with the situation. Unreal.

And sure enough another Fitt blunder just occured in passing on 2 first round picks and a second round pick for Brian Burns. PFF has Burns scored at 48.8 grade in run defense, and 68.2 grade in pass rush min 200 snaps. 

The good news is the NFL rewards massive failure with high draft picks. If we can land CJ (aka Geno Smith 2.0) and he pans out we'll be in a great position.

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