Injury Issues

[Mr. Scot]

Happy as I am that Matt Moore is getting his first start this season, the real possibility exists that he may go into the game missing some of his best support staff on offense. Defense could be missing some cogs as well.

Wish it were a better scenario, but I guess it is what...aaahh crap

[Guild]

This is where Peppers' and Wharton's big price tags are hurting us. We don't have the greatest depth.

[Nytrogen]

Fear not, we are playing the Bucs.

[rayzor]

you know what, though...isn't this the best situation for an unknown commodity to come into, especially at QB.

my thoughts behind this is...if moore can make something happen with limited options around him, wouldn't there be that much more reason to give him the job? granted he had problems in preseason but how much game planning went into that?

in this situation he has the benefit of going into the game with him as the starting QB. the game plan (hopefully) will be built around his strengths. williams can play or not play with very little impact on moore one way or the other. as far as the receiving options...moose is most likely a non-factor anyway and even though jarrett looked decent last week, he's pretty much a non-factor as well. i'd love to see him work with moore but that will likely have to wait.

let's look at who moore has to work with, though. for certain we know that he will have smith. kenny moore and obviously charly martin. who on the bucs is really going to be paying attention to martin? he's a udfa that was picked up from the chargers practice squad and until very recently was on ours. if moore has any chemistry with him, that could turn out nicely. also he will have king, rosario, and barnidge as receiving options. those guys are pretty reliable options and we know what happened with him and rosario in '07. there will also be stewart and sutton out there who aren't bad targets either. if williams is in there, there is another outlet.

i can see moore throwing about 25 times and his targets looking something like this:

smith: 8

other WRs: 6

TEs: 6

RBs: 5

other than smith...i just don't see him focusing on one particular target more than others. with pass protection problems we have because of gross being out, he's going to have to get that ball out quickly anyway. thats something which is an instant upgrade over jake. that also means that he will be most likely using more targets earlier in the game than jake does.

[Mr. Scot]

Valid.

One thing I noticed watching Panthers.com video. In drills, they had him dropping back, moving left and moving right before throwing. Likely they've also had him do traditional drop back and setup as well, but I know Scherer values pocket mobility. On that front, he may have a more able student in Moore than Delhomme.

Of course, it could also mean they're conscious of O-Line issues

[rayzor]

This is where Peppers' and Wharton's big price tags are hurting us. We don't have the greatest depth.

you mean gross? i don't think wharton's $1.75 million is hurting us all that much.

[rayzor]

Valid.

One thing I noticed watching Panthers.com video. In drills, they had him dropping back, moving left and moving right before throwing. Likely they've also had him do traditional drop back and setup as well, but I know Scherer values pocket mobility. On that front, he may have a more able student in Moore than Delhomme.

Of course, it could also mean they're conscious of O-Line issues

see there is another reason that i'm glad it's moore out there. he's mobile. he's been accused of having happy feet but when the Left side is in the shape it's in, thats not necessarily a bad thing.

one thing to consider, who was at LT when moore played before?

[CatMan72]

Either way, it's time to find out if Moore can help us so I'm glad he's getting the opportunity and I hope he plays well enough to hang onto the job for the rest of the season so we can get an extended look at him in his 3rd year. One of the things the Panthers offense has been lacking this season is the ability to stretch the field. Moore has a strong arm and good deep accuracy, if he get get it to Smitty over the top a few times things are going to get much easier for double-trouble.

I don't expect Moore to set the world on fire, he doesn't need to - we just need a guy that can take care of the ball and complete a few deep passes.

[Guild]

you mean gross? i don't think wharton's $1.75 million is hurting us all that much.

I thought Wharton was 12+ million against the cap.

12.85 million according to:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player?categoryId=200245

Gross is only 7.5 million.

[carpanfan96]

that's way off for this season for wharton's salary, his base is 1.75 million and his cap hit is 2.75 million for the 2009 season. His deal was for 6 years and 35 million..

[PntherPryd]

injuries on the other side may favor Moore, especially if Talib is out with a hamstring injury. Remember last time he held Smith to 1 catch for 4 yards.

[scpanther22]

are for a For a Dline were H.Thomas has to play all the Snaps at NT..and Nick Hayden comes in to spell Dlewis..lol

From the injury report it looks like Tank Tyler and C.johnson will be out.:eek:

[rayzor]

I thought Wharton was 12+ million against the cap.

12.85 million according to:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player?categoryId=200245

Gross is only 7.5 million.

wharton's contract details...

2/14/2008: Signed a six-year, $35 million contract. The deal includes $12 million guaranteed. 2009: $1.75 million, 2010: $3.9 million, 2011: $5.4 million, 2012: $5.7 million, 2013: $5.9 million, 2014: Free Agent

link

for the whole team...

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_contracts.aspx?sport=NFL&majteam=CAR

i'm not sure where fox sports got their numbers from but they may have used his salary from last year which was $12,850,000 even though his cap hit was only $2,712,882 according to here. there was a $12mil signing bonus but that cap hit was going to be spread across the remaining years of his contract.