The NFL is Rigged

[CRA]

20 minutes ago, Toomers said:

What story line? Why didn’t they take out the Bengals last year when they were a plucky underdog? Wouldn’t Mahomes against Rams been more attractive then?  The machine? Eyeballs? LOL

Kelce brothers is a big one.  2 highly entertaining people.  That why you seem them doing their podcast and all that. Andy/Philly is a big one. 

The Bengals was a fine story line last year.   Put Burrow on the map.  Which the league does want. The underdog story lead by the "cool kid".  But they just milked that last year.  They just did it.   It's not the same story anymore.  It doesn't have as much juice putting Burrow/Bengals right back.  Burrow to some degree is manufactured anyway in terms of his coolness.  

Super Bowl isn't just about the game.  It's about milking the storyline and making money off it all along the way.  yeah, I think they get more eyeballs in interest switching it up to KC this year. 

Not rigged.  Influenced.   See that over and over and over again in the sport.  Sports have always been influenced.  Fairness rarely exists in the world. 

[Cullenator]

Never attribute to malice that which can equally be explained by ignorance(or incompetence)

 

Professional full time refs with stable crews would fix the vast majority of bad officiating.

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Kelce brothers is a big one.  2 highly entertaining people.  That why you seem them doing their podcast and all that. Andy/Philly is a big one. 

The Bengals was a fine story line last year.   Put Burrow on the map.  Which the league does want. The underdog story lead by the "cool kid".  But they just milked that last year.  They just did it.   It's not the same story anymore.  It doesn't have as much juice putting Burrow/Bengals right back.  Burrow to some degree is manufactured anyway in terms of his coolness.  

Super Bowl isn't just about the game.  It's about milking the storyline and making money off it all along the way.  yeah, I think they get more eyeballs in interest switching it up to KC this year. 

No one who wasn’t already going to watch the SB cares about Reid/Eagles or a brother’s podcast. That’s weak at best. 
 

   What extra money is created by KC being there this year as opposed to last year? Where is this magic influx of new fans that are created from this scenario? 

 

[CRA]

26 minutes ago, Toomers said:

No one who wasn’t already going to watch the SB cares about Reid/Eagles or a brother’s podcast. That’s weak at best. 
 

   What extra money is created by KC being there this year as opposed to last year? Where is this magic influx of new fans that are created from this scenario? 

 

SB is all about the casual fan.   Not the hardcore fan.  Storylines matter. 

Clicks, views, eyeballs.  That's money in today's world.  Not just the game.  The entire lead up too. 

[Mage]

1 hour ago, Diehardpanth02 said:

Oh yeah I absolutely couldn't prove people are greedy especially sports owners

Don't be intentionally obtuse.

You can't prove that the NFL is rigged.

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

SB is all about the casual fan.   Not the hardcore fan.  Storylines matter. 

Clicks, views, eyeballs.  That's money in today's world. 

What casual fan even knows Reid’s background? Or even who Jason Kelee is? Why would they care? Casual fans watch for commercials and halftime. Not which teams are there.  But it makes sense to rig a game, only in a certain year, for people who don’t care anyhow. OK…

[Mage]

It is pointless arguing against someone who thinks the NFL is rigged and somehow hundreds of people (thousands of people if we're talking all of NFL history) that would have to be involved to make it happen are all compliant.

Because how can you argue against them?  Their argument literally isn't grounded in reality or dependent on facts. They can literally point to anything and say whatever, because again, reality and facts don't mean anything to them.  Whereas a person arguing that the NFL isn't rigged is limited by reality and facts.  It is an argument that you can't win.

Edited January 30, 2023 by Mage

[Zaximus]

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

What casual fan even knows Reid’s background? Or even who Jason Kelee is? Why would they care? Casual fans watch for commercials and halftime. Not which teams are there.  But it makes sense to rig a game, only in a certain year, for people who don’t care anyhow. OK…

No one watches for commercials anymore, they are on the internet a week before on youtube.  The NFL will make sure people know about the storylines leading up to it.  The advertisers pay to reach target demographics so it's not always "most popular team" it is what they can get charged for.  I think even if ratings drop during the game they pay less.  

[Zaximus]

Just now, Mage said:

It is pointless arguing against someone who thinks the NFL is rigged and somehow hundreds of people (thousands of people if we're talking all of NFL history) that would have to be involved to make it happen are all compliant.

Because how can you argue against them?  Their argument literally isn't grounded in reality or dependent on facts. 

It would literally take one call from Goodell to a head ref to influence a game.  A conversation between TWO people.  The owners love Goodell cause he makes them money.  I don't think influencing games always works out either but I think they have been decent at it.  In a game of momentum a head ref can easily influence things.  

[Mage]

1 minute ago, Zaximus said:

No one watches for commercials anymore

Lol.

[Zaximus]

Just now, Mage said:

Lol.

LOL if you want but you can watch the commercials here in a few days.  All of them.  It's not 1995 anymore. 

[Mage]

Just now, Zaximus said:

It would literally take one call from Goodell to a head ref to influence a game.  A conversation between TWO people.  The owners love Goodell cause he makes them money.  I don't think influencing games always works out either but I think they have been decent at it.  In a game of momentum a head ref can easily influence things.  

Once again, how can I argue against this?  You are arguing something that doesn't require any kind of factual knowledge.  You probably don't even know what would need to happen for Goodell to call down to the head referee and make that call, and you are assuming the head referee would comply would something that would get him sent to prison if it were exposed to have happened.

So again, my point is proven. It is impossible to argue against someone who thinks the NFL is rigged.  Because they will ALWAYS have something to point to.  How can I argue against your conjecture that Goodell called the referee to change the result of a play?  

[Mage]

And can anyone explain the point of this thread anyway?  Like what did the Chiefs benefit from?

The do-over 3rd down didn't result in anything.  So that leaves the roughing the passer call.  Is anyone here seriously arguing that wasn't roughing the passer?

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, Zaximus said:

No one watches for commercials anymore, they are on the internet a week before on youtube.  The NFL will make sure people know about the storylines leading up to it.  The advertisers pay to reach target demographics so it's not always "most popular team" it is what they can get charged for.  I think even if ratings drop during the game they pay less.  

Then those people weren’t watching no matter who plays? Where are they going to hear these storylines? Anyone who watches ESPN, NFL Network or searches for NFL info is a fan that is watching anyhow. But this league that is completely based on every team having the same resources, is rigging games for a couple extra viewers during one game. And why didn’t they put KC in last year? Easily a bigger draw than an unknown Bengals team.